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pos said:
All you need to do is swap your injection pump, fit a throttle cable and get shot of your egr valve. Simples :)
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Mmmmmm I'm intrigued now



EGR is gone but I likes the sound of this basic shizzle, disco could do with a bit more power intercooler and turbo are on the cards once the series is done if I havent gotten rid of it by then
 
tombabs said:
So probably be cheaper for an older one with no mods or a newer one with extra security etc?
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Kind of. An older one will certainly be a lot cheaper to insure but you would really need to try one out first, just to see what you think. A newer one would probably be a better option but it will cost substantially more, even with all the security on the earth. You should probably also consider the effect that owning a Land Rover will have on you. If you plan on driving it for a year and then just selling it, think again. It won't be so easy once you've learned to like it.

-Tom
 
Try ringing Dan Cameron at A-Plan Schemes dept, Tel 0845-0711234 (charged at local rates) or 01635 -879910.

Tell him that you are on the Landyzone and give him your username (tell him ratty gave you his details if you like) and see what he can do for you.;)
 
Dr_evil said:
Mmmmmm I'm intrigued now



EGR is gone but I likes the sound of this basic shizzle, disco could do with a bit more power intercooler and turbo are on the cards once the series is done if I havent gotten rid of it by then
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It's pretty straight forward. As far as I am aware, the later 300 tdi's were only given a little bit of electrickery in order to help it meet slightly tighter emissions regulations at the time of manufacture. There really can't be any other logic behind fitting a fly-by-wire throttle, a computer and a silly electronic pump / injector potentiometer. You will be able to fit an injection pump from a 200tdi or an earlier 300tdi. If you use a 200tdi pump however, you will need to take it to a diesel injection specialists to have them adjust / shim the delivery valves so that it produces the correct pressures for the 300tdi injectors. I think they open at a slightly higher pressure than the 200tdi injectors, both primary and secondary openings and the governor spring may be very slightly different but I'm not completely sure.

-Tom
 
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pos said:
It's pretty straight forward. As far as I am aware, the later 300 tdi's were only given a little bit of electrickery in order to help it meet slightly tighter emissions regulations at the time of manufacture. There really can't be any other logic behind fitting a fly-by-wire throttle, a computer and a silly electronic pump / injector potentiometer. You will be able to fit an injection pump from a 200tdi or an earlier 300tdi. If you use a 200tdi pump however, you will need to take it to a diesel injection specialists to have them adjust / shim the delivery valves so that it produces the correct pressures for the 300tdi injectors. I think they open at a slightly higher pressure than the 200tdi injectors, both primary and secondary openings and the governor spring may be very slightly different but I'm not completely sure.

-Tom
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I'd get the place thats doing my series engine swap to do it anyway so it'd be reet :p

I'll have a look on ebay for the parts though
 
Dr_evil said:
I'd get the place thats doing my series engine swap to do it anyway so it'd be reet :p

I'll have a look on ebay for the parts though
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I've just done a bit of reading up on the differences between the early and late 300 tdi injection systems. It looks like The EDC system like yours uses injectors which have a primary opening pressure of 200 atmospheres (around 200 BAR) and a secondary opening pressure of 300 atmospheres, where as the earlier, non-EDC injectors have a primary opening pressure of 200 atmospheres and a secondary opening pressure of 280 atmospheres, which is exactly the same as a 200tdi injector. So, you could either source a set of non-EDC 300tdi injectors and use a 200tdi pump with no problem, or use an early 300tdi pump and then either have your existing injectors shimmed down a little, or the pump shimmed up. As for the injector with the potentiometer, I don't know whether the sensor can be removed or whether you'd have to swap the whole injector.
 
To be honest it wont matter if you spend a little less on insurance by buying an older 90, because its easier to nick, so you wont have it long enough :mad: In my opinion, its the wrong time of year to buy a defender, they are going to do stupid money when snow hits the ground.:D

With out being too nosey, what do you do for a living?, wish I had a total of £7000 for insurance and first car lol, my first car was a ****ty 1ltr pug 106, seems a world away from my range rover now :D

Anyway, trying to be a bit more helpful, when I was doing my insurance I found it was cheaper for me personally to insure a 2.5 dse turbo than a 200 or 300 tdi. Diesel will always be cheaper than petrol to insure. Also having other drivers on your policy as named driver who have a good record lowered my price significantly.
 
Rangie.lad said:
To be honest it wont matter if you spend a little less on insurance by buying an older 90, because its easier to nick, so you wont have it long enough :mad: In my opinion, its the wrong time of year to buy a defender, they are going to do stupid money when snow hits the ground.:D

With out being too nosey, what do you do for a living?, wish I had a total of £7000 for insurance and first car lol, my first car was a ****ty 1ltr pug 106, seems a world away from my range rover now :D

Anyway, trying to be a bit more helpful, when I was doing my insurance I found it was cheaper for me personally to insure a 2.5 dse turbo than a 200 or 300 tdi. Diesel will always be cheaper than petrol to insure. Also having other drivers on your policy as named driver who have a good record lowered my price significantly.
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My V8 110 was cheaper to insure than my 300tdi 110.
 
pos said:
Don't bother with university. I've just graduated after three years on a design degree course and it has got me absolutely nowhere, no job, no money and no responses from potential employers. An apprenticeship would be a good idea ;) As for your question, yes any Land Rover with a tdi engine will cost more to insure whether its been retro-fitted or not. If the previous owner has had it insured as a tdi, it'll be on file and those three letters will bring the premium right up. What I was suggesting is that if you buy a non-modified vehcile and then swap the engine, you dont necessarily have to tell the insurers that your have changed the engine if you catch my drift. It would afterall, still be a 2.5 litre diesel engine. Some will shun me for suggesting this, but why should all young drivers have to absorb the costs for chavvy boy racers and whiplash scammers in Bradistan? If you are only planning on having it for a year, a 19J (2.5 Turbo Diesel) would be alright. It'll probably be just about ready to blow up by the time you get rid of it, but you could have a little bit of fun with it. Don't go expecting it to pull up hills very well though.

-Tom
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i think you will find that putting a 2.5 tdi in would constitute a modification and knowing these ripoff insurane companies as we do if you had a bit of a bump and wanted to claim they would throw the claim out. insurance companies are there to take your hard earned cash NOT RETURN IT!!!!!
 
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