On 2006-10-25, Andy <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote:

> At the end of the day it is often down to the driver and his or her
> experience that will determine damage and whether or not you get stuck

Within limits. You've still got more money than sense!!

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"Oily" <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Andy" <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:T5mdncdW28hR4KPYnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> "Lee_D" <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote in message
>> news:4q6f9vFlek20U1@individual.net...
>> > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and
>> > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to
>> > bodge a new end on but no doubt it's now on borrowed time.
>> >
>> > Who's replaced and with what? What sort of money and is it any good or
>> > would you steer clear in future.
>> >
>> > We may well be doing the unofficial in the Disco which mean no froadin
> for
>> > us :-(
>> >
>> >
>> > Lee D
>>
>>
>> Why can't you off-road in the Disco, I will be taking my 7-day old D3 on
> the
>> off-road course!
>>
>> Andy
>>
> Some people have more money than sense, I wouldn't take my 7 day old D3
> off
> road (even if I could afford one). ;-)
>
> Martin
>
>

What was it built for mate?


 

"Andy" <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>>> Why can't you off-road in the Disco, I will be taking my 7-day old D3 on
>> the
>>> off-road course!
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>> Some people have more money than sense, I wouldn't take my 7 day old D3
>> off
>> road (even if I could afford one). ;-)
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>
> I object to that, I don't have more money than sense (although I wish I
> did :) ). The Discovery 3 is fantastically capable off-road, I have
> enough experience not to do anything silly that may damage it but I want
> to put it through its paces. It was designed for off-road use, why pay for
> all that ability if it's just to be used for the school run. Don't we
> berate those folk in their 'Chelsea tractors'???
>


 
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:23:42 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news06@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:

>Basically you're going to have to be careful where you take it or
>it'll get stuck, scratched, dented etc etc.

Neil took his showroom Rangie to places that frightened the dealer as
I recall?

 
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:59:38 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news06@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:

>On 2006-10-25, Andy <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> At the end of the day it is often down to the driver and his or her
>> experience that will determine damage and whether or not you get stuck
>
>Within limits. You've still got more money than sense!!

Doe seem a little odd to me that here, on AFL, we are giving stick to
somone who wants to use his LR as it was intended.

Personally, I won't take my P£8 laning, because I like it looking
pretty, and its main raison d'etre is towing a 2 tonne dive boat, not
mud plugging, but that is my choice, and I salute Andy, Neil et al who
take far more exotic machines places I would fear to tread.

I would quite like to see a back to back Series 1, LR3 challenge (on
similar tyres). Clarkson, Hammond, you listening?

David
 

"Andy" <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> "Ian Rawlings" <news06@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrneju7oe.ljp.news06@desktop.tarcus.org.uk...
> > On 2006-10-25, Andy <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is
> >> breakover and departure angles.
> >
> > For a super-expensive truck, I wouldn't take it off-road with
> > disadvantages like that. I've seen the Disco II in road trim get
> > stuck in stupid places because of the trim around the edges, the
> > wheelbase and then once it's stuck, the lack of proper recovery
> > points. Another issue with the D3 is the weight.
> >
> > Basically you're going to have to be careful where you take it or
> > it'll get stuck, scratched, dented etc etc.
> >
> > --
> > Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
>
> I agree to a point but the D3 is far superior to the D2 in terms of angles
> etc, the air suspension gives 2" of standard lift with another 4"
available
> if needed (extended and super extended modes), the recovery points are
over
> engineered and will withstand serious recovery if need be.
>
> At the end of the day it is often down to the driver and his or her
> experience that will determine damage and whether or not you get stuck
>
Can't argue with that.

Martin


 

"Lee_D" <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote in message
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> Oily <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
> > Tut tut, should know these, Tailpipe is 595284.
> >
> > Martin.
>
> Nope, thats the LHD one, Morph is RHD in which case it's
>
> 1 of 592794 Tailpipe (RHD)
>
> Lee D
>
Ooops, I stand corrected, not worked on any right hand drive ones.

Martin


 
On 2006-10-25, rads <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Doe seem a little odd to me that here, on AFL, we are giving stick to
> somone who wants to use his LR as it was intended.

What's a D3 or new rangie intended for I wonder.

--
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On 2006-10-25, Mother <nospam@nominet.name> wrote:

> Neil took his showroom Rangie to places that frightened the dealer as
> I recall?

Good luck to 'em, if I was going to spend that kind of loot on an
off-roader, it'd be a proper off-roader, probably ex-military, lots of
choice there, although getting someone to sell you one can be hard!
If I'm going to spend lots of cash on something, I'll get a car that's
good on the road, or one that's good off the road, not one that's no
good at either..

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"Nige" <nigel.inceGETAWAY@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Oily" <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote in message
> news:K5GdnYdSIOf6CKPYRVnyjg@bt.com...
> >
> > "Andy" <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:T5mdncdW28hR4KPYnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d@bt.com...
> >> "Lee_D" <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4q6f9vFlek20U1@individual.net...
> >> > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and
> >> > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able
to
> >> > bodge a new end on but no doubt it's now on borrowed time.
> >> >
> >> > Who's replaced and with what? What sort of money and is it any good
or
> >> > would you steer clear in future.
> >> >
> >> > We may well be doing the unofficial in the Disco which mean no
froadin
> > for
> >> > us :-(
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Lee D
> >>
> >>
> >> Why can't you off-road in the Disco, I will be taking my 7-day old D3
on
> > the
> >> off-road course!
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> > Some people have more money than sense, I wouldn't take my 7 day old D3
> > off
> > road (even if I could afford one). ;-)
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
>
> What was it built for mate?
>
Can't argue with that either. But he's still got more money than sense.

Martin


 
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:30:36 +0100, "Lee_D"
<newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote:

>Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and
>noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to bodge
>a new end on but no doubt it's now on borrowed time.
>
>Who's replaced and with what? What sort of money and is it any good or would
>you steer clear in future.

my exhaust rotted away at the junction of the 2 smaller pipes. it
sounded ace with it snapped off there!

i still have the old silencer box off mine and it is pretty much
intact (minus the metre or so of straight pipe off the end which i
stole to make a car exhaust)
if you wanted to weld a bit back on you could fit my old box. it is
stashed in the garden somewhere. I will be back very late
thursday/early on friday, so if you want it give me a ring on friday
morning and you can fit it quickly before leaving.!
 
On or around Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:23:42 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news06@tarcus.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-10-25, Andy <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is
>> breakover and departure angles.
>
>For a super-expensive truck, I wouldn't take it off-road with
>disadvantages like that. I've seen the Disco II in road trim get
>stuck in stupid places because of the trim around the edges, the
>wheelbase and then once it's stuck, the lack of proper recovery
>points. Another issue with the D3 is the weight.

One thing they should consider is quick-release trim and spoilers and so on
around the bottom of the body - this has been a bugbear for a lot longer
than the D3 - sometime part-way through the RR classic run they started
fitting front spoilers, which people knocked off on the scenery off-road. If
these panels were easy to remove (and any low side panels, too) then they
could be taken off when you went off-roading and replaced afterwards. I'm
sure it's not beyond the ability of the designers and manufacturers to make
such things.
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>>
> Personally, I won't take my P£8 laning,

LOL!!! perfect mistake for the P38!!!


 
On or around Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:13:35 +0100, Mother <nospam@nominet.name>
enlightened us thusly:

>On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:23:42 +0100, Ian Rawlings
><news06@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>Basically you're going to have to be careful where you take it or
>>it'll get stuck, scratched, dented etc etc.
>
>Neil took his showroom Rangie to places that frightened the dealer as
>I recall?

ah, but was that on a test-drive?
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"Oily" <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Nige" <nigel.inceGETAWAY@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:doadneIn8NqntKLYnZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@pipex.net...
>>
>> "Oily" <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote in message
>> news:K5GdnYdSIOf6CKPYRVnyjg@bt.com...
>> >
>> > "Andy" <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> > news:T5mdncdW28hR4KPYnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> >> "Lee_D" <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:4q6f9vFlek20U1@individual.net...
>> >> > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes
>> >> > and
>> >> > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able
> to
>> >> > bodge a new end on but no doubt it's now on borrowed time.
>> >> >
>> >> > Who's replaced and with what? What sort of money and is it any good
> or
>> >> > would you steer clear in future.
>> >> >
>> >> > We may well be doing the unofficial in the Disco which mean no
> froadin
>> > for
>> >> > us :-(
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Lee D
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Why can't you off-road in the Disco, I will be taking my 7-day old D3
> on
>> > the
>> >> off-road course!
>> >>
>> >> Andy
>> >>
>> > Some people have more money than sense, I wouldn't take my 7 day old D3
>> > off
>> > road (even if I could afford one). ;-)
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> >
>>
>> What was it built for mate?
>>
> Can't argue with that either. But he's still got more money than sense.
>
> Martin
>
>

Has he bollocks, he's an enthusiast like all of us.

Nige


 
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:44:40 +0100, Austin Shackles
<austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

>On or around Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:23:42 +0100, Ian Rawlings
><news06@tarcus.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>On 2006-10-25, Andy <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is
>>> breakover and departure angles.
>>
>>For a super-expensive truck, I wouldn't take it off-road with
>>disadvantages like that. I've seen the Disco II in road trim get
>>stuck in stupid places because of the trim around the edges, the
>>wheelbase and then once it's stuck, the lack of proper recovery
>>points. Another issue with the D3 is the weight.
>
>One thing they should consider is quick-release trim and spoilers and so on
>around the bottom of the body - this has been a bugbear for a lot longer
>than the D3 - sometime part-way through the RR classic run they started
>fitting front spoilers, which people knocked off on the scenery off-road. If
>these panels were easy to remove (and any low side panels, too) then they
>could be taken off when you went off-roading and replaced afterwards. I'm
>sure it's not beyond the ability of the designers and manufacturers to make
>such things.

Pretty sure on my classic 86 RR the front spoiler was designed to come
off easily, there is, ISTR, a bit in the owners handbook about how to
remove it for off road use, four bolts from memory.

Of course, 20 years of road salt has made made it somewhat less easy
now.

David
 

"rads" <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
message news:0ncuj2tq8gif573tt56jbcaq6k8mf7ded5@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:44:40 +0100, Austin Shackles
> <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:
>
>>On or around Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:23:42 +0100, Ian Rawlings
>><news06@tarcus.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>On 2006-10-25, Andy <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is
>>>> breakover and departure angles.
>>>
>>>For a super-expensive truck, I wouldn't take it off-road with
>>>disadvantages like that. I've seen the Disco II in road trim get
>>>stuck in stupid places because of the trim around the edges, the
>>>wheelbase and then once it's stuck, the lack of proper recovery
>>>points. Another issue with the D3 is the weight.
>>
>>One thing they should consider is quick-release trim and spoilers and so
>>on
>>around the bottom of the body - this has been a bugbear for a lot longer
>>than the D3 - sometime part-way through the RR classic run they started
>>fitting front spoilers, which people knocked off on the scenery off-road.
>>If
>>these panels were easy to remove (and any low side panels, too) then they
>>could be taken off when you went off-roading and replaced afterwards. I'm
>>sure it's not beyond the ability of the designers and manufacturers to
>>make
>>such things.
>
> Pretty sure on my classic 86 RR the front spoiler was designed to come
> off easily, there is, ISTR, a bit in the owners handbook about how to
> remove it for off road use, four bolts from memory.
>
> Of course, 20 years of road salt has made made it somewhat less easy
> now.
>
> David

It took me two hours of swearing & chopping to get one of the 'easy' bolts
off!!!!


 

"Nige" <nigel.inceGETAWAY@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Oily" <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote in message
> news:-eudnWFCRtYCs6LYnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com...
> >
> > "Nige" <nigel.inceGETAWAY@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:doadneIn8NqntKLYnZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@pipex.net...
> >>
> >> "Oily" <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote in message
> >> news:K5GdnYdSIOf6CKPYRVnyjg@bt.com...
> >> >
> >> > "Andy" <andrew.cooke4@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:T5mdncdW28hR4KPYnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d@bt.com...
> >> >> "Lee_D" <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4q6f9vFlek20U1@individual.net...
> >> >> > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be
able
> > to
> >> >> > bodge a new end on but no doubt it's now on borrowed time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Who's replaced and with what? What sort of money and is it any
good
> > or
> >> >> > would you steer clear in future.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We may well be doing the unofficial in the Disco which mean no
> > froadin
> >> > for
> >> >> > us :-(
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Lee D
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Why can't you off-road in the Disco, I will be taking my 7-day old
D3
> > on
> >> > the
> >> >> off-road course!
> >> >>
> >> >> Andy
> >> >>
> >> > Some people have more money than sense, I wouldn't take my 7 day old
D3
> >> > off
> >> > road (even if I could afford one). ;-)
> >> >
> >> > Martin
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> What was it built for mate?
> >>
> > Can't argue with that either. But he's still got more money than sense.
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
>
> Has he bollocks, he's an enthusiast like all of us.
>
> Nige
>
I didn't mention anything about his endowment. And I've done lots of off
roading and in places other people wouldn't go, but he's still got more
money than sense I say. ;-)

Martin


 
On 2006-10-25, Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

> One thing they should consider is quick-release trim and spoilers and so on
> around the bottom of the body - this has been a bugbear for a lot longer
> than the D3

At the last off-road pay 'n' play I went to, a Disco series 2 had to
give up due to having to drive round at a snail's pace with 2 spotters
to stop the lower trim getting scuffed by the edge of the track, a big
queue of disgruntled off-roaders quickly built up behind them.

Never mind what the vehicle's capable of, if the owner doesn't want to
scratch it then that's a real limit on lots of tracks, and you don't
always get the opportunity to stop and turn around if it gets too bad!

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On 2006-10-25, rads <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Of course, 20 years of road salt has made made it somewhat less easy
> now.

If it was removable, I'll bet that it'd be damned hard to make it go
back on once all the fastenings and mating surfaces had been dragged
through the mud for a few hours. It can be hard enough getting the
doors to close sometimes!

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