Brack said:
Yes your right, wonder why they didn't make a Freelander v6 manual :confused:
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I think LR missed a trick there. I suspect it was a tooling issue. It would have ment making another gearbox bell housing.
There are 3 manual boxes fitted to the Freelander. There's two PG1 boxes. One for the 1.8 and another one for the L series diesel. The diesel box has uprated shafts and bearings to handle 177ftlb of to torque. The standard 1.8 PG1 is only designed to take 130 ftlb.
The TD4 uses a completely different box altogether so is useless for a manual conversion.
 
The Docmeister said:
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About the 10th post down, seems to think it's a KV6 with PG1 gearbox...
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KV6 to a FWD PG1 box isn't a problem. That model of PG1 was used in the MG ZS180, and all Rover cars fitted with a T series petrol and L series diesel engine.
The problem is, these boxes don't have the output shaft and mounting points for the Freelander's IRD.
If you don't want 4WD then it's a relatively easy task to simply install the engine and gearbox from a ZS180. The engine mounts will work too.

I'd also like to fit the KV6 into my MGF, sadly the wife has other ideas.
 
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I've just had a brain wave.
The 1.8 Freelander PG1 box doesn't accept the IRD directly. It uses a bracket sandwiched between the two. It is drilled to bolt to the box and then the IRD bolts to the bracket.
The FWD PG1 box also has the lugs that this bracket could bolt to. They aren't drilled or tapped but this isn't a problem.
If this bracket can be bolted to the box half the work is done. The gearbox could be machined to accept the IRD nose. It might even fit as is. Then the FWD gearbox needs the Freelander's final drive to make it work.
It's looking easier that I first envisaged.
 

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Nodge68 said:
I've just had a brain wave.
The 1.8 Freelander PG1 box doesn't accept the IRD directly. It uses a bracket sandwiched between the two. It is drilled to bolt to the box and then the IRD bolts to the bracket.
The FWD PG1 box also has the lugs that this bracket could bolt to. They aren't drilled or tapped but this isn't a problem.
If this bracket can be bolted to the box half the work is done. The gearbox could be machined to accept the IRD nose. It might even fit as is. Then the FWD gearbox needs the Freelander's final drive to make it work.
It's looking easier that I first envisaged.
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and Torsen LSD? :)
 
The Mad Hat Man said:
and Torsen LSD? :)
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No point in having a FWD Freelander really. Torsen or not. Besides the price of even a second hand Torsen would likely exceed the cost of modifying a box to make a 4x4 Freelander.
Mind you, if the entire 4X4 system was dumped there would be a considerable weight saving!
 
The Mad Hat Man said:
is it not possible to have both Torsen & 4wd?
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Yes. There is a torsen or torque biasing rear diff available. This is made by Quaife so comes with a hefty price tag!!

There are the different PG1 bell casings available.
Pic 1 is a Freelander 1.8 K series note the IRD mount is fitted.
Pic 2 is an L series box. Note the IRD mount is removed.
Pic 3 is a ZS180 box. Note 2 of the IRD mount lugs are cast in and look like they would take a thread. The IRD nose hole looks like it will fit too.


Pic 2 is the same
 

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The Docmeister said:
Go on, do it, do it, do it!

What needs swapping engine harness-wise to drop a V6 where a 1.8 once sat?
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It would be easier to start off with a V6, change the gearbox and fit the pedal box gear linkage.
It is possible to fit a V6 where a 1.8 once sat but there are so many other things to change to make it work.
 
What about the Jatco auto box on the 1.8 K series engine?! LOL I can almost picture everyone's reaction to this! You know, having fitted the uprated oil rail to my 1.8, no more faults! Coolant temp needle stays where is, fans never come on as the radiator and coolant single handedly work the way they do. How would that sound, a 1.8 engine and the Jatco? Just a thought.. (LOL?)
 
niccage said:
What about the Jatco auto box on the 1.8 K series engine?! LOL I can almost picture everyone's reaction to this! You know, having fitted the uprated oil rail to my 1.8, no more faults! Coolant temp needle stays where is, fans never come on as the radiator and coolant single handedly work the way they do. How would that sound, a 1.8 engine and the Jatco? Just a thought.. (LOL?)
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Anything is possible. Lack of torque would be the problem. From what I can see, Jatco absorbs around 40 Nm of torque. That's a lot when you only have 160Nm to start with!!.
 
Ok guys I have a freelander and a smashed up mgtf 160.the freelander is a 2002 so mems 3 same as the mgtf same year of make,so I have the engine,loom,ecu,key fob,imboliser box.my mgtf was a 135 bhp,all I did was new head,loom,ecu etc and it started and was running .belts had to changed,so the question is,will the body harness fit on to the mgtf ecu,and with the new key for and imboliser will it run
 
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