yes they are a bit funky, never worked up a tree with one most of my work was in the river with them, ice was one i allways used to get fed up with it surprising how that takes the edge off...

anybody come across those freaky one handed sthils, i find you cant buy one now unless your a tree surgeon with paperwork, we used to have them in the evo agency until they became outlawed...

25degrees when your felling all day is a bit slow, yes your chain lasts all day without needing a sharpen, until you find an old nail in a tree, good angle if your shortwooding though

The Jonsred is a good little saw shares a lot of parts as the husky, and if your logging all day the husky and jonsred are a bit lighter than the sthil, trick we used to do was to get a resonable power saw and drop it to the smallest bar and chain you could get to increase the cut speed...

once got the route info together will let you know, you intrested welshlandy, be good to see you out again...

Not planing on mate as most will wanna get back to famlies etc, and i myself have work the following morning, working on route at presant, should have more details in next few days, it will be mid wales anyway, and will be as ever pretty good day... ps .... you seen me mate marc lately, not...

we are only going out for the day, on a simple circular route...

Point taken Boomer and mad hat man on your comments, this may have got out of hand, but i had just reason for my condenmnation of the route and its prior planning. i recived a number of PMs on this and other channel with regards to 90boys methods of obtaining route info from others, still this...

anyone still up for a boxing day bash

SIRUS THAT I HAVE TRIED BUT HE DONT WANT TO DO ANY WORK HIMSELF, JUST WANTS TO LOOK GOOD OF OTHERS, propper planing needed, that was my point, most people would put corwen offlimits at that time of year, due to deapth and water temp should the inevitable occur... was that thought of. JURY no no...

Shame he dont do the lag work on routes then, instead he just goes round nicking everyone elses help to make himself look the dandy, well not on my time, thank you, i was taken in at the start thinking he wanted genuine help, no no no, but if your to headstrong to see the light good luck to ya...

FFS landys were made for off road so F****** off road then....

and i would have helped you out with more, but you wont help yourself was it to much to ask to rethink the route...

Yes but the lane from bala area towards dovey valley i had to disclose to you you originally were going down the road...

Right fair enough but you could have made it far easier and memorable for yourself, and others, everyone remembers the big name lanes, and they get hammered week in week out by various groups and all we do is make a rod for our back with the locals, we could have got far more millage in localy...

its not that i dont like it, i think youve just been a bit sloppy with your homework, Q... WHY DRIVE FROM ONE SIDE OF THE COUNTRY TO THE OTHER AND MISS ALL THE LANES.... as i said if you do a bit more work i will help you fill in the missing parts, but it looks like you collected all the adds...

it is of very poor quality i feel, if you was to travel a fair distance for a weekend of this you would go home dissapointed i feel, you could get in far more off tarmac millage than you are at presant, at the end of the day the aim is to lane not drive past them and wave,,,, and at the same...

you will be surprised whos been out laning with me over the years, some come from your area, just put your head in the maps do some homework on lanes and change your tired route thats been done to death, as for friends on other channel, i have freinds on both channels... look just make it a...

it is nothing personel mate but my phone has not stopped ringing with warnings from others, some whom have been on your routes before, some who know of you, and others just showing concern, you will find i am a resonable chap all i ask is you revise the route and show considaration to the ones...

Right then folks, i have given this much thought, and if route revisions are not carried out to give a memorable weekend with good routes and safety considered to those following, aswell as thought paid to the residents along the route i will be declining my offer of help at presant... i have a...