yea i have heard nunny banging on about how bad it is, i went on their website Parkwood Off Road Centre and i emailed them and they say there are all different ability trails, ones to wreck your landy, black and red, and the blue trails that are for beginners and its where people take brand new motors supposed to be steady as. but if your not up for it no worries, its not far from me were just an idea mate. err not sure either saturday or sunday, what day you thinking of going mate?