Well, that answers that then!I own 2 land rovers
Well, that answers that then!I own 2 land rovers
That is essentially what you're implying by saying "make a stupid decision that'll cost you thousands of pounds and justify it with youth"Didn't say set fire to your money did I?
Not quite, if it was just a laning toy, a second car, Id get a 300tdi, or a Fourtrak, or a Jimny. It would be my daily driver, my main car, but instead of being really quick like my current car, it could be used for a weekend of greenlaning. I definately can't justify buying, taxing, testing, and insuring a second car just to go greenlaning a handful, maybe a dozen weekends a year. And before anyone suggests, I have thought about an old tax exempt series, but it would have to live outside, and I don't trust that it wouldn't be stolen.It sounds like you want a cheap D3 as a laning toy rather than something you need, a hobby car essentially.
Yeah - I'm trying to assess what the chances are, and how much it'll likely cost me to put it right. I think the answer is "the odds are against you and it'll cost a fortune"It's luck of the draw if you get a good one, realistically you won't and it will cost money. Almost every 2nd hand car has a problem, usually why it's for sale.
No, he’s not.That is essentially what you're implying by saying "make a stupid decision that'll cost you thousands of pounds and justify it with youth"
No, I might have had some silly cars but they didn't cost thousands as they all sold for the same or more, so price neutral.That is essentially what you're implying by saying "make a stupid decision that'll cost you thousands of pounds and justify it with youth"
Not quite, if it was just a laning toy, a second car, Id get a 300tdi, or a Fourtrak, or a Jimny. It would be my daily driver, my main car, but instead of being really quick like my current car, it could be used for a weekend of greenlaning. I definately can't justify buying, taxing, testing, and insuring a second car just to go greenlaning a handful, maybe a dozen weekends a year. And before anyone suggests, I have thought about an old tax exempt series, but it would have to live outside, and I don't trust that it wouldn't be stolen.
Yeah - I'm trying to assess what the chances are, and how much it'll likely cost me to put it right. I think the answer is "the odds are against you and it'll cost a fortune"
What will I learn from that? Given that my parents owned one, that I drove quite a bit, and lived with it. I know if I asked them they would implore me to avoid one at all costs.Go and see a couple and post on here for feedback.
How come? Does the air system have some clever anti-rollbar system like the D2s ACE?Forgot to add from my previous thread that u also lose the cross articulation when they are converted to coils
Definately not.Also wondering if the DSC system is also disabled
That has been the case for some of the cars I have owned, others, not so much.No, I might have had some silly cars but they didn't cost thousands as they all sold for the same or more, so price neutral.
No of couse not. All I need as a daily car is a Golf (or other similar ordinary car), sometimes I tow, but only because I have a towbar. If I didn't have a towbar, Id just borrow a car that does.I am guessing you don't actually need a D3 as a daily car?
So it is a hobby car then as you have a Subaru for normal duties.What will I learn from that? Given that my parents owned one, that I drove quite a bit, and lived with it. I know if I asked them they would implore me to avoid one at all costs.
How come? Does the air system have some clever anti-rollbar system like the D2s ACE?
Definately not.
That has been the case for some of the cars I have owned, others, not so much.
No of couse not. All I need as a daily car is a Golf (or other similar ordinary car), sometimes I tow, but only because I have a towbar. If I didn't have a towbar, Id just borrow a car that does.
However, I like cars. I currently have a car that I use everyday, that also happens to make a nice noise and go very very quickly (Subaru). Also being AWD and powerful, it did a great job of pulling a rented microdigger out of my field - again though, if I didn't have it, we could have just driven the digger out, it would be slower, but not difficult.
So what do I NEED a D3 for? I don't, I just NEED a car that can be used as a normal car, which a D3 can. A D1 can't, really.
Why do I WANT a D3? To take greenlaning on weekends.
I think I need to test drive a Prado.
I thought you were asking questions about the potential cost of owning a D3?What will I learn from that? Given that my parents owned one, that I drove quite a bit, and lived with it. I know if I asked them they would implore me to avoid one at all costs.
I can't afford to keep both, nor do I really have the space.So it is a hobby car then as you have a Subaru for normal duties.
So did I, but 14mpg was just completely unsustainable, and a diesel is just so slow, at least the handful of them that I drove were.I use my D1 as a daily most of the week…
Our old one was a high spec version with air suspension, and I havn't got al the recipts from the garage bills all those years ago to tell if the bills came from the air suspension and other optional extras that weren't needed, or if they were from stuff like the ABS, etc.If you don’t want/need the feedback, why all the questions?
Thanks - out of interest, which 4x4(s) would you advise instead?General maintenance was very expensive in comparison to just about any other 4x4 in terms of brakes and suspension components
A common experience, I gather?nearly bankrupted him before he sold it
Yeah, for occasional use I'd get an old Fourtrak, probably. Really I want something I can use everyday, drive long distances in, in the outside lane of a motorway. Obviously not performance car fast, just not so slow it really struggles to keep up with traffic.For occasional use, I’d really consider the disco 2. It is much more user friendly for repairs and performs well in terms of performance and comfort with scope for improvement at quite reasonable cost. There are nice examples about. I ran a disco 1 as my main car for ten years and only failed twice.
A freelander won't hack it offroad. Sure, it'll do the greenlane, but because it hasn't got low range, the momentum that you'd carry to get over stuff means eventually you'll bash it into something, and so sooner or later you'll break it.I dont have personal experience but Freelanders seem to have a pretty good reputation.The early models seem to be more resistant to serious rust. Need to watch for 4wd problems.
A D2 is too wallowy, the steering is really really vague, and its really an offroad machine that works okay on tarmac. I don't need solid axles for the 1% of the driving I do offroad.A disco 2 will fit the bill for your requirements.
A V8 tops out at a high enough speed, but is shakes and vibrates and wobbles all over the place getting there. Sitting at 85ish is like standing on those wierd wobble plates some gyms have. At 65 its quite okay. A V8 will also cost about 50p/mile in fuel at current prices.A V8 will easily keep up with traffic on lane 3 on the motorway.
I want speed and 25-30mpg over economy and 45-50mpg. I want economy and 25mpg over speed and 14mpg.although I suspect you want speed over economy
As is the case with a Disco 3, infact, with the exception of Subarus, I can't think of a single 4x4 that has low range that couldn't do Strata in standard form, provided the water was low enough.The disco 2 has low range and doesn’t need a suspension lift or lots of modifications to be able to do strata Florida
Yes, I'd only go for some mild AT tyres, on the smallest wheels I could get, and would only ever go with mates.A decent set of tyres, recovery points, recovery kit and some other vehicles to go with should be fine.
Cobblers - they have less ground clearance, but I’ve seen them tackle the tough stuff.A freelander won't hack it offroad. Sure, it'll do the greenlane, but because it hasn't got low range, the momentum that you'd carry to get over stuff means eventually you'll bash it into something, and so sooner or later you'll break it.
Maybe if you drive in low everywhereSo did I, but 14mpg was just completely unsustainable,