Those are both new

Oh and the main thing I was looking for was the actual swivel preloads with seals, everywhere I look it's a different figure

I'll have a look at it tonight then. One of the steering UJs is newish, the other is probably original.

I had replaced the damper ages ago to try and solve the problem but no difference

I’d say N/S preload, followed by steering shaft UJs. Maybe both.

A dead or nearly dead shock/damper can result in that sort of rattle upon hitting a pot hole but pre load first.

Both pins are in great condition. Ive seen worn pins before, including someone's I repaired that had no pin left whatsoever and he wondered why the steering felt off 😬. I'll do the left side tonight and see how it goes tomorrow

Steering damper wont cause that but I'll check the drop arm. And yeah the panhard rod bushes and bolts are all new.

I've found so many conflicting things about this that I thought id just ask here. I've had a proper rattle through my steering when I go over any large bumps or potholes which I put down to swivel pin preload. Id lived with it for a while before...