ⓡⓤⓓⓨ · May 9, 2011

Hi everyone

Just bought a '99 4.0 HSE.
Gorgeous car but water/coolant is runnig out like Niagara Falls

It seem to be coming from behind/near the driver's side exaust manifold.
Going to take that off tomorrow to have a better look...Hopefully core plug :scratching_chin:

Anyone had this happening to their RR?

Rudy

clarkie · May 9, 2011

sounds like the head gasket has gone have fun

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ · May 9, 2011

clarkie said:
sounds like the head gasket has gone have fun

I was thinking that as well.
However...I didn't think there would be a big enough gap between the head and cyl. to have the water pouring out that drastically

rasheed · May 9, 2011

you'd be surprised how much water the airconditioning drains. sure its not that? and core plugs can start to seep but its usually quite gentle (look for telltale coolant stains). if its pouring out of there, ie if a plug is missing, you'd be totally out of coolant in about 15 seconds.

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ · May 10, 2011

rasheed said:
you'd be surprised how much water the airconditioning drains. sure its not that? and core plugs can start to seep but its usually quite gentle (look for telltale coolant stains). if its pouring out of there, ie if a plug is missing, you'd be totally out of coolant in about 15 seconds.

No, it's def. not the A/C.
I can pour water in the exp. tank (with the engine running) and see it pouring/running out almost immediately. When I do this on a hot engine, it is accompanied by clouds of steam as well.

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ · May 10, 2011

Had a closer look today.
Removed inner wing cover, outer heat shield and as far as I can see the water is pouring out from behind the engine mount......
Maybe the block is cracked there

Not sure if this is a common issue, but I don't think I've read about it before

Datatek · May 10, 2011

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ;1496667 said:
Had a closer look today.
Removed inner wing cover, outer heat shield and as far as I can see the water is pouring out from behind the engine mount......
Maybe the block is cracked there
Not sure if this is a common issue, but I don't think I've read about it before

Frost damage due to lack of antifreeze?

clarkie · May 10, 2011

cracked blocks are usually internal behind a liner,if it is a core plug you should be able to see it from under the car if its spewing that much water out you should see which one very easily,you shure its not the metal heater pipes or the connections to them,there just above the engine mounts on drivers side.

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ · May 10, 2011

clarkie said:
cracked blocks are usually internal behind a liner,if it is a core plug you should be able to see it from under the car if its spewing that much water out you should see which one very easily,you shure its not the metal heater pipes or the connections to them,there just above the engine mounts on drivers side.

It's not the pipes or the core plugs.
I guess I need to take the engine mount off to see what's going on

jt_armstrong · May 10, 2011

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ;1496770 said:
It's not the pipes or the core plugs.
I guess I need to take the engine mount off to see what's going on

There is a core plug directly behind the engine mount. You can take the engine mount off but all that will do is give you a better view. The fun will start if the plug needs replacing as there isn't enough room to get the old out never mind chapping the new one in.

jamesmartin · May 10, 2011

i would definately try undoing mounts and jacking engine up if that were the case before i took it out

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ · May 10, 2011

jt_armstrong said:
There is a core plug directly behind the engine mount. You can take the engine mount off but all that will do is give you a better view. The fun will start if the plug needs replacing as there isn't enough room to get the old out never mind chapping the new one in.

That's really good news..lol

What are the options? Lifting/dropping the engine far enough to get to it?

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ · May 10, 2011

jamesmartin said:
i would definately try undoing mounts and jacking engine up if that were the case before i took it out

Indeed.
How many mounts are there to undo?
is there a risk of anything snapping off when jacking up the engine?

jamesmartin · May 10, 2011

2,exhaust manifold one side down pipe joint other ,fan,

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ · May 10, 2011

jamesmartin said:
2,exhaust manifold one side down pipe joint other ,fan,

You mean undo the fan as well?

jamesmartin · May 10, 2011

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ · May 10, 2011

jamesmartin said:
yes

OK thanks.
Will hopefully give it a shot tomorrow - weather permitting

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ · May 11, 2011

Well...managed to get the exhaust manifold off - undid the engine mounts - jacked engine up

From what I can see there is a large hole right beneath the temp sender. it's pouring out there....

What needs to be attached to there

Datatek · May 11, 2011

ⓡⓤⓓⓨ;1497466 said:
Well...managed to get the exhaust manifold off - undid the engine mounts - jacked engine up

From what I can see there is a large hole right beneath the temp sender. it's pouring out there....

What needs to be attached to there

A new block

Irishrover · May 11, 2011

Drain Plug missing ????
Is the hole threaded??

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