BIOSBILL

BIOSBILL

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was worried about my handbrake, rolling 3 foot either side of the hbrake, as how would i tell the examiner that "its normal for it to roll like that"

But somebody told me that as its a transmission break (aka, it locks the drive train instead of applying the wheel drum brakes) its UNTESTABLE in the MOT.

Is this true?

Would be great as if it is, as i dont kno how to explain that its normal for a LR of this age to roll a bit back and forth to take up the strain in the drivetrain!

Is that normal?
 
round these parts they test it during the on road part of the test, i expected one of mine to fail on it as the lever could be pulled allmost all of the way up, and even then you could push the vehicle with ease - it's not difficult to sort - have you tried playing with the rod adjusters or the square nut on the back of the plate?
 
Who ever told you this is a moron. The tester will pull on the hand brake. if it travels all the way to the top he will fail it for not having any reserve travel I know because my 110 failed for the same reason.
 
Sean I was referring to the idiot who told our 1st poster that the Handbrake isn't tested. You have to wonder where some people get there ideas from and the level of intelligence behind their statements.
 
yer thought so, i assumed he meant it rolled 3 inches rather than foot and i was resisting the temptation to tell him to go read the manual

i think testing stations that just do cars do have issues with 4x4s simply because they dont know how to test them and that leads to allsorts of nonsense being circulated about how they actually do test the tranny brake
 
There is a perfecly simple procedure set out since the MoT test was first started, for dealing with 4 x 4 transmission handbrakes.

This only applies to PERMANENT or full-time four wheel drive systems, so NONE of the Series Landies are involved.

Discos, and RangeRovers are involved.
Freelanders are not as their so-called 4WD is different and their handbrake is on a pair of wheels.

CharlesY
 
our local tester has a slight ramp out the front of his workshop. he drives yer landy up it then applies the handbrake, if it dunt go ter the top and it holds the motor then its passed, if it rolls back or the lever goes to the top leaving no reserve travel then its a fail, simple really, he does loads of landies and even drives one himself
 
That's a good method - a slope is a set angle and the force required to hold the car is automatically adjusted for the weight of the car. Clever.


I think another way is the old Tapley Meter.
They were little good as driver technique could make them pass of fail regardless of the state of the brakes. I used to own one but gave it away.

CharlesY
 
yella said:
slight ramp out the front of his workshop. he drives yer landy up it then applies the handbrake, if it dunt go ter the top and it holds the motor then its passed, if it rolls back or the lever goes to the top leaving no reserve travel then its a fail,
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Isint that wot a handbrake should do ?? like stop your landy from rolling away?:rolleyes:
 
Hi,

Thanks for all your help!
Guess thats another thing to sort out then. Mine was driven at 20 with the hand brake on, and think its knackerd the brake shoes?

Should it roll at all with the hbrake on (like 3 foot!!) guess not!

Guess thats another thing to add to my paddocks shopping list!

Thanks,

biosbill
 
The problem with transmission handbrakes is they turn at a Hell of a speed compared to a wheel brake.

If you want to see action (and waste a pair of linings too) take up the centre panel between the front seats, get up some speed and apply the handbrake enough to hold you at 40 or 50 with the throttle full down.

You'll soon smell the smoke and feel the heat as the handbrake drum goes red hot.

One brake this side of the diff can apply a lot of braking torque when the car isn't moving. Snag is, if ONE wheel slips the whole car is liable to move.

CharlesY
 
My ex mod has got handy little lables all over the dash and in the engine bay like oil type, lights, wipers and so on and on the dash infront of the hand brake it says transmision brake do not engage while in motion. Does that mean when they stick it on a rolling brake tester and wack the handbrake on it will knacker somthing or is it ok for short periods such as testing?:confused:
 
Disco Inferno said:
My ex mod has got handy little lables all over the dash and in the engine bay like oil type, lights, wipers and so on and on the dash infront of the hand brake it says transmision brake do not engage while in motion. Does that mean when they stick it on a rolling brake tester and wack the handbrake on it will knacker somthing or is it ok for short periods such as testing?:confused:
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The hand brake is the SECONDARY BRAKING SYSTEM, required by law.

It must be able to apply 16% (I think) braking force to stop the vehicle from a reasonable speed ONCE. It must not rely on stored pressure or force.

It is OK to apply the brake for testing - good actually because the handbrake drums get rusty. We should all use them from 5 mph for a few seconds every couple of weeks to keep the drums and linings clean.

CharlesY
 
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