aids · May 19, 2014

Hello All
Its time to replace the tyres on my 2002 P38 Vogue SE.
My current tyres are Continental 4X4 Contact they have lasted very well but do tramline.
I would like the ride to be a bit smoother so I am taking the opportunity and going down from the 18 wheels to 16.
The tyres I am looking at are the Goodyear Wrangler HP AW and the Michelin Latitude Cross both on the standard size 255/65/16.
I know that there have been complaints about the Wrangler, is that just on the 18 rims?
If anybody out there has got the Goodyear or Michelin on 16 please could you let me know what you think of them.
Thanks

Datatek · May 19, 2014

Recently fitted Nexen to mine, brilliant, good grip, very quiet, small but measurable mpg improvement and best of all the slight tramlining it had on Wranglers has totally disappeared. PM wil2813.

wil2813 · May 19, 2014

NEXEN 255/65R16 106T ROADIAN 541 Fuel...
A competitively priced mid-range tyre for multi-functional 4x4 vehicles,This tyre offers precise steering, comfort and stability. For drivers who love the road and the thrill of driving off it,...

Home Delivered

£ 73.15

+ P&P.

GOODYEAR 255/65R16 109H WRANGLER HP ALL WE...
When you want your vehicle to go anywhere, in any weather, you need a tyre that won't let you down. Wrangler HP is the true all-weather, high performance 4x4 tyre, and its secret is our unique weathe...Home Delivered

£ 96.96

+ P&P.

MICHELIN 255/65R16 113H XL LATITUDE CROSS ...
MICHELIN Latitude Cross is the multi-purpose 4x4 tyre that delivers the traction of an off-road tyre, the comfort of an on-roadtyre with excellent mileage.... Home Delivered

£ 110.90

+ P&P.

Datatek · May 20, 2014

wil2813 said:
NEXEN 255/65R16 106T ROADIAN 541 Fuel...
A competitively priced mid-range tyre for multi-functional 4x4 vehicles,This tyre offers precise steering, comfort and stability. For drivers who love the road and the thrill of driving off it,...

Home Delivered

£ 73.15

+ P&P.

GOODYEAR 255/65R16 109H WRANGLER HP ALL WE...
When you want your vehicle to go anywhere, in any weather, you need a tyre that won't let you down. Wrangler HP is the true all-weather, high performance 4x4 tyre, and its secret is our unique weathe...Home Delivered

£ 96.96

+ P&P.

MICHELIN 255/65R16 113H XL LATITUDE CROSS ...
MICHELIN Latitude Cross is the multi-purpose 4x4 tyre that delivers the traction of an off-road tyre, the comfort of an on-roadtyre with excellent mileage.... Home Delivered

£ 110.90

+ P&P.

NEXEN every time for me thanks Wil

aids · May 20, 2014

Thanks for your replies.
I dont think that the Nexen can be used on 16" rims the load index is 106 not 109.
Datatek looks like you have them on 18" rims which fit Nexens with the correct load index.
My new (scrap yard) 16" wheels arrived today as nobody is saying anything bad about the Wranglers or Latitude Cross I will have to flip a coin.
I will let you all know what I think of them and if the change to 16" is worth it.

Datatek · May 20, 2014

aids said:
Thanks for your replies.
I dont think that the Nexen can be used on 16" rims the load index is 106 not 109.
Datatek looks like you have them on 18" rims which fit Nexens with the correct load index.
My new (scrap yard) 16" wheels arrived today as nobody is saying anything bad about the Wranglers or Latitude Cross I will have to flip a coin.
I will let you all know what I think of them and if the change to 16" is worth it.

Yep mine's on 18"s, I also have 16"s. With the NEXEN's on the 18"s there is no difference between the wheels for handling, no tramlining on either.

Rachelkgr · May 21, 2014

What is tramlining?

2.0_hippo · May 21, 2014

Pirelli for me

also had Nexan's too which are also pretty good for the money

2.0_hippo · May 21, 2014

Rachelkgr said:
What is tramlining?

Tramlining - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dopey · May 22, 2014

I would never use Pirelli again ever... he says he want a better ride, but you can get a softer ride by changing thew settings... I like the wrangler tyre because it looks good, but I would think its noisy??

wil2813 · May 23, 2014

2.0_hippo said:
Pirelli for me

+1 ive tried/fitted/sold them all & the only tyre I run/use is scorpion zeros, mine got treated to 4 new ones 2 days ago

I would also have considered fitting altenzo being a official supplier for them but sadly not available in 255/50/20 at the moment, nexen are good allround value for money.

aids · May 23, 2014

Dopey said:
I would never use Pirelli again ever... he says he want a better ride, but you can get a softer ride by changing thew settings... I like the wrangler tyre because it looks good, but I would think its noisy??

The Wrangler tyre is the quietest according to the new tyre specs

Datatek · May 23, 2014

aids said:
The Wrangler tyre is the quietest according to the new tyre specs

Not on the EU specs I looked at, the Wranglers on mine were much noisier than the new NEXEN's, but if they don't do the size you want it's not a lot of help.

aids · Jul 21, 2014

Here is an update on my tyres:-
I decided to go for Michelin Latitude Cross.
I bought some 16 rims off eBay and took them to the Wheel Specialist at Chester.
They refurbished the wheels and fitted my new Latitude Cross tyres.
So after a few hundred miles this is what I think compared with the 18 rims and Continental tyres:-
RIDE -- much improved you still feel the potholes but transformed from a crash to a muffled thump
HANDELING -- I was expecting the handling to be worse, completely wrong it is much improved.
TRAMLINEING -- Gone!
NOISE -- Much quieter probably less than half the road noise and I thought the old tyres were quiet.
The tread depth is 10mm and wide gaps in the tread so should be good in the snow/off road.
As you can see I am well impressed with the Michelin Latitude Cross, the only down side I can see is that the 16 rims probably do not look quite as good as the original 18 comet rims.
I have added some pictures, hope they work.

pwood999 · Jul 21, 2014

Another question on the same subject . . . . 255/65R16 or 235/70R16 ??

It seems most tyre places have a choice ?

Pete

Datatek · Jul 21, 2014

pwood999 said:
Another question on the same subject . . . . 255/65R16 or 235/70R16 ??

It seems most tyre places have a choice ?

Pete

255, I believe that 235 was for the steel rims.

ovalandrover · Jul 21, 2014

aids said:
Here is an update on my tyres:-
I decided to go for Michelin Latitude Cross.
I bought some 16 rims off eBay and took them to the Wheel Specialist at Chester.
They refurbished the wheels and fitted my new Latitude Cross tyres.
So after a few hundred miles this is what I think compared with the 18 rims and Continental tyres:-
RIDE -- much improved you still feel the potholes but transformed from a crash to a muffled thump
HANDELING -- I was expecting the handling to be worse, completely wrong it is much improved.
TRAMLINEING -- Gone!
NOISE -- Much quieter probably less than half the road noise and I thought the old tyres were quiet.
The tread depth is 10mm and wide gaps in the tread so should be good in the snow/off road.
As you can see I am well impressed with the Michelin Latitude Cross, the only down side I can see is that the 16 rims probably do not look quite as good as the original 18 comet rims.
I have added some pictures, hope they work.

I have just fitted my second set of Lattiude cross on my 18 in rims .
The first set lasted about 45000 mile on all road conditions .
I took them across Russia to Mongolia twice.
One rim got damaged but the tyre was still ok and did a further 15000 miles on another rim.
One tyre got steaked and just left the rubber on the rims ( got a new tyre in Murmansk much to my surprise )
So my vote is for Michelin Lattitude cross.
Beware of kwick fit they tried to fit Lattitude tour telling me thats what i ordered so I walked out on them.

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