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Quick question proberbly a long answer involving more questions ;-)

Scenario: I have a 2002 TD5 110 Double Cab. THe exhaust manifold requires
ten bolts one above and below each feed. At the end closest to the bulkhead
one of the nut/bolt combo's seems to have rotted away near the engine block
and the other nut had dropped off and was sitting in between the maifold
feeds. When I put it back on that one sheared really easily too so I assume
was rotton. I was only having a quick look as the exhaust is blowing and I
was going to have-a-go at the weekend. Had to remove loads of plastic
boxing and other stuff first to see where and why it was blowing. so
anyways......

The Question: because both have sheared and I dont want to take the maifold
off until the weekend to have a proper look and also becasue I have never
done this end of an exhaust before. Are those bolt which have rotted
threaded? I assume they are but assumption gets me nowhere sometimes.

Thanks in advance.....

regards,

Mark


 
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:37:03 -0700, "Mark"
<mark@_nospam_sleepybubble.com> wrote:

>Quick question proberbly a long answer involving more questions ;-)
>
>Scenario: I have a 2002 TD5 110 Double Cab. THe exhaust manifold requires
>ten bolts one above and below each feed. At the end closest to the bulkhead
>one of the nut/bolt combo's seems to have rotted away near the engine block
>and the other nut had dropped off and was sitting in between the maifold
>feeds. When I put it back on that one sheared really easily too so I assume
>was rotton. I was only having a quick look as the exhaust is blowing and I
>was going to have-a-go at the weekend. Had to remove loads of plastic
>boxing and other stuff first to see where and why it was blowing. so
>anyways......
>
>The Question: because both have sheared and I dont want to take the maifold
>off until the weekend to have a proper look and also becasue I have never
>done this end of an exhaust before. Are those bolt which have rotted
>threaded? I assume they are but assumption gets me nowhere sometimes.
>

Do you mean are they studs? (threaded rod without a head) that screw
in to the cyl. head.

I can't imagine what else they would be.
I'm also aghast at rotton exhaust manifold studs on a 2002 engine. How
long a warranty do you get with a new LR? Most new vehicles have a 3
yr warranty now, if LR do then get down to your dealer asap. If not,
then get down there anyway and claim 'unfit for purpose'. No part of a
new vehicle should rot away in 2 years, not even the exhaust pipe let
alone engine studs.

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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:57:31 +0100, Colonel Tupperware
<big.russ@tesco.net> wrote:

>How
>long a warranty do you get with a new LR? Most new vehicles have a 3
>yr warranty now, if LR do then get down to your dealer asap.


Found it.

http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Owning/FAQS/FAQ_Warranty.htm

Warranty Questions


Q. What is included under the Land Rover UK warranty?
The manufacturing warranty on vehicles purchased in the UK covers any
defect that is attributed to a manufacturing defect under normal use
for a period of 3 years, unlimited mileage from the date of original
registration (since 1st March 2002).

Anti Corrosion on perforated panels is covered for 6 years under
warranty, however the vehicle must have an annual corrosion inspection
by a Land Rover dealer.

For further details please refer to your handbook or contact your
local Land Rover dealership.

Q. What are my responsibilities regarding the benefits of this
warranty?

The vehicle must be registered and serviced to manufacturing
recommendations. This will only apply to vehicles still in their
original manufacturer's warranty.

end quote

This does not mean that the vehicle must be serviced by Land Rover,
just serviced to their recommendations. Unless the service shedule
mentions tightening or inspecting exhaust manifold studs then it
should not make a difference whether its been serviced or not.

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On or around Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:57:31 +0100, Colonel Tupperware
<big.russ@tesco.net> enlightened us thusly:

>I can't imagine what else they would be.


V8s have bolts, not studs, holding their exhaust manifolds on.

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"Austin Shackles" <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On or around Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:57:31 +0100, Colonel Tupperware
> <big.russ@tesco.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >I can't imagine what else they would be.

>
> V8s have bolts, not studs, holding their exhaust manifolds on.
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
> Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
> from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.


My V8 has studs and brass nuts?

Fergus


 
On or around Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:39:29 +0100, "fergus.kendall"
<fergus.kendall@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:

>"Austin Shackles" <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:k0m3e0t027l1e44q38nghdcmvmcur9krd3@4ax.com...
>> On or around Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:57:31 +0100, Colonel Tupperware
>> <big.russ@tesco.net> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>> >I can't imagine what else they would be.

>>
>> V8s have bolts, not studs, holding their exhaust manifolds on.
>>
>> --
>> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
>> Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
>> from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

>
>My V8 has studs and brass nuts?


if it's a rover V8, it's an aftermarket job. sensible, mind.

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horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:59:18 +0100, Austin Shackles
<austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>On or around Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:57:31 +0100, Colonel Tupperware
><big.russ@tesco.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>I can't imagine what else they would be.

>
>V8s have bolts, not studs, holding their exhaust manifolds on.


Ive never looked that closely.

Well the OP did mention nuts and bolts, but I assumed he meant nuts on
studs. Screwing bolts into alloy cylinder heads is not a good idea
IMO. It does make for easier assembly though.

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"Mark" <mark@_nospam_sleepybubble.com> wrote in message
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> Quick question proberbly a long answer involving more questions ;-)
>
> Scenario: I have a 2002 TD5 110 Double Cab. THe exhaust manifold requires
> ten bolts one above and below each feed. At the end closest to the

bulkhead
> one of the nut/bolt combo's seems to have rotted away near the engine

block
> and the other nut had dropped off and was sitting in between the maifold
> feeds. When I put it back on that one sheared really easily too so I

assume
> was rotton. I was only having a quick look as the exhaust is blowing and I
> was going to have-a-go at the weekend. Had to remove loads of plastic
> boxing and other stuff first to see where and why it was blowing. so
> anyways......
>
> The Question: because both have sheared and I dont want to take the

maifold
> off until the weekend to have a proper look and also becasue I have never
> done this end of an exhaust before. Are those bolt which have rotted
> threaded? I assume they are but assumption gets me nowhere sometimes.
>
> Thanks in advance.....
>
> regards,
>
> Mark
>
>



So I cried off doing it myself having thought about it, took the car to
several garages and they wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Had to go to
the local dealership who I detest as they are more into selling range rovers
than fixing defenders. Told me I had to wait three weeks, I guess they dont
really want to do the work either. They gave me a bunch of numbers for other
places to try and grudgingly gave me an appointment to have the work done at
the end of July. Its a shame I dont live closer to the dealers I bought it
from, I dont mind the trek once a year to get the dealer service stamp for
the log book, its just maddening that I get great service from a dealer 100
miles away and the one 1.5 miles away treat me like dirt they scraped off
their shoes.
Can anybody reccomend a place that they have used and recieved good service
and a reasonable price in the Coventry/Leamington/Warwick area that isn't a
Syntner dealership?

Regards.

Mark


 
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:08:29 -0700, "Mark"
<mark@_nospam_sleepybubble.com> wrote:


>
>
>So I cried off doing it myself having thought about it, took the car to
>several garages and they wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Had to go to
>the local dealership who I detest as they are more into selling range rovers
>than fixing defenders. Told me I had to wait three weeks, I guess they dont
>really want to do the work either. They gave me a bunch of numbers for other
>places to try and grudgingly gave me an appointment to have the work done at
>the end of July. Its a shame I dont live closer to the dealers I bought it
>from, I dont mind the trek once a year to get the dealer service stamp for
>the log book, its just maddening that I get great service from a dealer 100
>miles away and the one 1.5 miles away treat me like dirt they scraped off
>their shoes.
>Can anybody reccomend a place that they have used and recieved good service
>and a reasonable price in the Coventry/Leamington/Warwick area that isn't a
>Syntner dealership?
>

But if its a 2002 it is covered by the manufacturers warranty.

Isn't it?

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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:57:31 +0100, Colonel Tupperware
<big.russ@tesco.net> wrote:

>How
>long a warranty do you get with a new LR? Most new vehicles have a 3
>yr warranty now, if LR do then get down to your dealer asap.


Found it.

http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Owning/FAQS/FAQ_Warranty.htm

Warranty Questions


Q. What is included under the Land Rover UK warranty?
The manufacturing warranty on vehicles purchased in the UK covers any
defect that is attributed to a manufacturing defect under normal use
for a period of 3 years, unlimited mileage from the date of original
registration (since 1st March 2002).

Anti Corrosion on perforated panels is covered for 6 years under
warranty, however the vehicle must have an annual corrosion inspection
by a Land Rover dealer.

For further details please refer to your handbook or contact your
local Land Rover dealership.

Q. What are my responsibilities regarding the benefits of this
warranty?

The vehicle must be registered and serviced to manufacturing
recommendations. This will only apply to vehicles still in their
original manufacturer's warranty.

end quote

This does not mean that the vehicle must be serviced by Land Rover,
just serviced to their recommendations. Unless the service shedule
mentions tightening or inspecting exhaust manifold studs then it
should not make a difference whether its been serviced or not.

--
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:08:29 -0700, "Mark"
<mark@_nospam_sleepybubble.com> wrote:


>
>
>So I cried off doing it myself having thought about it, took the car to
>several garages and they wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Had to go to
>the local dealership who I detest as they are more into selling range rovers
>than fixing defenders. Told me I had to wait three weeks, I guess they dont
>really want to do the work either. They gave me a bunch of numbers for other
>places to try and grudgingly gave me an appointment to have the work done at
>the end of July. Its a shame I dont live closer to the dealers I bought it
>from, I dont mind the trek once a year to get the dealer service stamp for
>the log book, its just maddening that I get great service from a dealer 100
>miles away and the one 1.5 miles away treat me like dirt they scraped off
>their shoes.
>Can anybody reccomend a place that they have used and recieved good service
>and a reasonable price in the Coventry/Leamington/Warwick area that isn't a
>Syntner dealership?
>

But if its a 2002 it is covered by the manufacturers warranty.

Isn't it?

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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:37:03 -0700, "Mark"
<mark@_nospam_sleepybubble.com> wrote:

>Quick question proberbly a long answer involving more questions ;-)
>
>Scenario: I have a 2002 TD5 110 Double Cab. THe exhaust manifold requires
>ten bolts one above and below each feed. At the end closest to the bulkhead
>one of the nut/bolt combo's seems to have rotted away near the engine block
>and the other nut had dropped off and was sitting in between the maifold
>feeds. When I put it back on that one sheared really easily too so I assume
>was rotton. I was only having a quick look as the exhaust is blowing and I
>was going to have-a-go at the weekend. Had to remove loads of plastic
>boxing and other stuff first to see where and why it was blowing. so
>anyways......
>
>The Question: because both have sheared and I dont want to take the maifold
>off until the weekend to have a proper look and also becasue I have never
>done this end of an exhaust before. Are those bolt which have rotted
>threaded? I assume they are but assumption gets me nowhere sometimes.
>

Do you mean are they studs? (threaded rod without a head) that screw
in to the cyl. head.

I can't imagine what else they would be.
I'm also aghast at rotton exhaust manifold studs on a 2002 engine. How
long a warranty do you get with a new LR? Most new vehicles have a 3
yr warranty now, if LR do then get down to your dealer asap. If not,
then get down there anyway and claim 'unfit for purpose'. No part of a
new vehicle should rot away in 2 years, not even the exhaust pipe let
alone engine studs.

--
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On or around Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:57:31 +0100, Colonel Tupperware
<big.russ@tesco.net> enlightened us thusly:

>I can't imagine what else they would be.


V8s have bolts, not studs, holding their exhaust manifolds on.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
"Austin Shackles" <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:k0m3e0t027l1e44q38nghdcmvmcur9krd3@4ax.com...
> On or around Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:57:31 +0100, Colonel Tupperware
> <big.russ@tesco.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >I can't imagine what else they would be.

>
> V8s have bolts, not studs, holding their exhaust manifolds on.
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
> Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
> from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.


My V8 has studs and brass nuts?

Fergus


 

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