Davlyn

Davlyn

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This post should put the cat amongst the pigeons!!

How much relevance do you think there is in having a vehicle with full service History?
I've read loads of post on here and other forums where people advise not to buy a Range Rover unless its got full service History (in particular P38's and the newer L322's).

Haven't classic Range Rover prices gone through the roof over the last couple of years? There seems to be a marked difference in prices between a Range Rover classic's with full service history and maintained regardless of cost compared to one that has a checkered history if it has any at all.
If like myself you are planning on keeping your Range Rover (P38) for many years should we all still keep them maintained by a main dealer or independent to keep them worth top money?
I appreciate in many instances a lot of it comes down to money and many of these vehicles are bought to work and will be scrapped when they become uneconomical to repair but do you think the P38 values will follow the classic in a few years time?

Dave
 
My P38 had a full service history when i bought it, first thing i did was check all the levels, engine oil was just about on dipstick. That was at 107,000 miles, it has not had any service stamps since and is now at 116,000 miles, but has been better serviced because i do it myself. I know it's right that is all that concerns me. I could if i wished go to my mate and get the book stamped up, so stamps really mean not a lot in the long run.
 
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wammers said:
My P38 had a full service history when i bought it, first thing i did was check all the levels, engine oil was just about on dipstick. That was at 107,000 miles, it has not had any service stamps since and is now at 116,000 miles, but has been better serviced because i do it myself. I know it's right that is all that concerns me.
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Was about to say similar. I'd care more that I bought it off someone that loved and cared for it. Being a member of an owners club would be worth far more to me than a service history. I'd buy off a fair few member in here without any book coz I know it'll be well looked after.

I always service my own cars (where I can) so as soon as I buy one, the service history stops. But... I'd then sell within an owners club/forum too...

Nik
 
wammers said:
I could if i wished go to my mate and get the book stamped up, so stamps really mean not a lot in the long run.
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I guess someone could probably get a stamp made up for "Joe Bloggs Landrovers, Little Bigover, Shireland". Who'd actually google to see if the garage existed if it was out of the area?
 
lr service intervals are over long in many cases,and a stamp doesnt mean a lot from some dealers and garages
 
I bought my range rover with a fully stamped up service history, but the first thing I'm doing is getting my indy garage to do the oils, filters, gearbox oils, etc., as well as sorting any minor niggles.
It may cost a little extra, and it may turn out to have been unnecessary, but can you put a price on peace of mind?
 
Discotigger said:
I bought my range rover with a fully stamped up service history, but the first thing I'm doing is getting my indy garage to do the oils, filters, gearbox oils, etc., as well as sorting any minor niggles.
It may cost a little extra, and it may turn out to have been unnecessary, but can you put a price on peace of mind?
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I always service every vehicle I buy. They guy selling it will say and do anything to get a sale, just because it has a stamp doesn't mean it has been serviced. The garage I worked for used to fill up owners books with stamps if there were any gaps in the history to increase the value (yes, I used to work for a scamming bastid). So I've learnt to take that little box of ink at face value. The only work you know for sure has been carried out is work you have carried out yourself. Pieces of paper are worth sweet FA.
 
service history is simply a stamp in the book, that's all.

you'd be surprised at what the garages said they have done but they actually haven't.


bought mine with zero service history. but you know when something has been looked after or not.
 
2.0_hippo said:
service history is simply a stamp in the book, that's all.

You'd be surprised at what the garages said they have done but they actually haven't.


Bought mine with zero service history. But you know when something has been looked after or not.
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+1 ;)
 
I am with Wammers on his I bought mine 7 yrs ago it had a service history but I went through it myself and it had been badly maintained in my opinion things like all the areas which should have been full of grease dry as a bone so service history load of old hydraulics
 
Another one who just doesn't believe service histories, or most garages. I bought my 2000 with a history starting at a main dealer then a few independant stamps. I then found;
very tired looking ATF in the box with a filter dated 2001
what looked like engine oil in the front diff
what looked like treacle in the back diff
EVERY prop shaft UJ dry

I'd rather buy from somebody who obviously knows the car.
 
The number of previous owners and how long the last owner kept it are more important than the service book IMO. My P38 had 3 previous owners, the original owner, the original owners son who had it for a couple of months and the guy I bought it from who had had it for 5 years. There were no dealer stamps for those last 5years, but the guy had kept the book up to date with everything he had done, he also had a series which he had extensively modified for off roading. The car was obviously well cared for. There are still no stamps from a dealer as i do all my own work, but the book is still kept up to date with all work recorded.
 
Service history does not mean much in a lot of cases,I have been driving different vehicles ever since and in all that time i have NEVER paid any one,Or garage for a service. However I had access to a service stamp and always stamped my own book.Now my daughter bought a brand new freelander 2 a couple of years ago and that has had its service at the main L R agent and anything thing else the main agent can get out of her,( Not That ! )
 
My Current L322 came with history, all stamps from Main Dealers - phoned my Local Dealer and asked them to check the history of the vehicle and they confirmed it had been seviced as per the book according to their computer.

Regardless of that I have still had to:

Recalibrate Ride Height
Clean a Dicky Height Sensor
Replace Thermostat
Replace OSF ABS Sensor
Replace Fuel Pump
Replace Rad

Since May this year.....Stamps don't mean much....

BUT all fluids are clean and clear, the filters are clean, Oil Filter is clean and the pollen filters are clean!!
 
The problem with servicing started in the 90s when the various marquees noticed that fleets would go to whoever had the shortest service time. So they would reduce the amount of time required for a service but not reduce what had to be done. So main dealers were left with 2 hours of work to do in 1 hour. As you can imagine they started cutting corners as they only get paid for the book time and not a penny more, to make profit they need to finish early or push the prices through the roof to cover the lost time.

The same problem is going to happen with MoT Tests as they have been given more checks to carry out but no extra time to do them all. Corners are going to get cut.
 
Saint.V8 said:
My Current L322 came with history, all stamps from Main Dealers - phoned my Local Dealer and asked them to check the history of the vehicle and they confirmed it had been seviced as per the book according to their computer.

Regardless of that I have still had to:

Recalibrate Ride Height
Clean a Dicky Height Sensor
Replace Thermostat
Replace OSF ABS Sensor
Replace Fuel Pump
Replace Rad

Since May this year.....Stamps don't mean much....

BUT all fluids are clean and clear, the filters are clean, Oil Filter is clean and the pollen filters are clean!!
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It is indeed good to know that whilst it may fail mechanically, you won't get hay fever whilst driving. :D:D:D
 
Davlyn said:
This post should put the cat amongst the pigeons!!

How much relevance do you think there is in having a vehicle with full service History?
I've read loads of post on here and other forums where people advise not to buy a Range Rover unless its got full service History (in particular P38's and the newer L322's).

Haven't classic Range Rover prices gone through the roof over the last couple of years? There seems to be a marked difference in prices between a Range Rover classic's with full service history and maintained regardless of cost compared to one that has a checkered history if it has any at all.
If like myself you are planning on keeping your Range Rover (P38) for many years should we all still keep them maintained by a main dealer or independent to keep them worth top money?
I appreciate in many instances a lot of it comes down to money and many of these vehicles are bought to work and will be scrapped when they become uneconomical to repair but do you think the P38 values will follow the classic in a few years time?

Dave
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I got mine from my son in law who knows ZERO about cars and it had not been looked after. He had it for 5 years and I've had it for 3. ( 167,000) and used daily. I simply keep every single invoice for oil, filters, parts etc etc. You're hardly likely to buy filters and oil on a regular basis and store them in your garage.
I would rather buy a car from somebody who has owned it for a number of years and at least appears to know what he'sdoing.
 
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