top drive · Nov 25, 2014

anybody do this - with manual tools - ie at home not in a tire shop. what gear you got.

I remember doing this with my great grandad many many years ago as a kid in his workshop with a Dahl to break the bead(on steelies) - a pair of tire levers and a bubble balancer to static balance.

having made enquiries to find out where i can have my insa winters mounted its proving hard - garages round here simply not interested or coming up with crazy prices.

unless anyone has a good place(in aberdeen or the shire) to have some 14inch steelie rimmed car tires mounted that isnt 25 quid a corner - and thats before i try and get them unmounted to take away and paint - then bring back for remounting.....

vilguy · Nov 25, 2014

i fit my own, its pretty easy to do.

if you go past lockerbie give me a shout and ill fit em for you

top drive · Nov 25, 2014

thats not a trip im likely to repeat again any time soon - that was a fair shift driving.

im keen to learn fitting my own , i understand the concept ,ive seen it done but the clue was in the fact it was my great grandad who showed me.... i was about 8-9 at the time

I was more wondering what kind of gear you were using to do it ?

vilguy · Nov 25, 2014

top drive said:
thats not a trip im likely to repeat again any time soon - that was a fair shift driving.

im keen to learn fitting my own , i understand the concept ,ive seen it done but the clue was in the fact it was my great grandad who showed me.... i was about 8-9 at the time

I was more wondering what kind of gear you were using to do it ?

I bought a tyre machine

its much easier! haha

I hated fitting tyres with hand tools, too many trapped fingers and too much ballache.

I do use easy start sometimes as a flammable guess to seat the bead on tyres that refuse to seat properly. Always fun! I keep meaning to buy a proper bead seating tank but when a quick dose of gas does it... why bother

top drive · Nov 25, 2014

well in that case i might take a trip back to arbroath and borrow my buddies - and keep an eye out on gumtree/ebay

- i have lots more tires to mount and demount

thinking about it - the tires my great grandad will have been fitting will have been crossplys - like fitting a bike tire.

vilguy · Nov 25, 2014

top drive said:
well in that case i might take a trip back to arbroath and borrow my buddies - and keep an eye out on gumtree/ebay - i have lots more tires to mount and demount

thinking about it - the tires my great grandad will have been fitting will have been crossplys - like fitting a bike tire.

I paid £200 for my machine and its paid for itself many times over. Fantastic tool to have. Apart from when you walk into it in the garage when you couldnt be arsed to turn the light on... thats when its not worth it.

trax · Nov 25, 2014

how disappointing, i thought you had managed to train tyres to mount themselves

bankz5152 · Nov 25, 2014

Local place near me does em for £5 a tyre.

Spend a fortune on toola for no gain

trax · Nov 25, 2014

around here it's about a tenner a large tyre, i've had some asking for 100 before as well.

you can pick up the manual changers for about 50quid

top drive · Nov 25, 2014

i live in aberdeen.

ive yet to find somewhere thats willing to work on cars like my dailys - the peugeots which have none of that emissions **** that complex dervs these days have.

most charge through the nose or flat out dont want the work - tried to get the clutch done on my daily up here(i do most things my self but i was needing it for work ASAP ) - prices started at 900 quid for pattern clutch only and finished at - "i dont really want the hassle of doing that job"

i got it done with a genuine clutch/bearing / new cable , new main rear seal(genuine) and uprated alu linkages for 450 in the end but had to travel 50 miles to drop it off and pick it up.

back home i could get it done fitted and balanced for 15 quid a corner .... then then i used to fix his bikes - with stuff he brought in so was good when i brought him tires. i guess thats the **** part about moving away from home to where you know no one. that network of helping each other out goes.

im looking at manual changers just now after watching videos on youtube now - doesnt look so bad - but the sealey 50 quid changer looks pish.

trax · Nov 25, 2014

quite often you can pickup secondhand air ones for a hundred or so on ebay. just have to keep an eye out

top drive · Nov 25, 2014

aye will keep half an eye out.

what sort of volumes of air do they need to operate ?

trax · Nov 25, 2014

top drive said:
aye will keep half an eye out.

what sort of volumes of air do they need to operate ?

can't remember 100psi?

tbh, a lot of them are just like manuals but with an air bead breaker.

top drive · Nov 25, 2014

having looked a bit closer at what exactly a bead breaker is trying to achieve .... i might just make my self one its not exactly precision engineering.

long lever with a pivoting arm + wide contact area + way of holding the rim in place......

a tire bar,a pot o soap and a couple of anchor bolts might be the only thing i need to purchase here - already got pry bar and a pair of molgrips.

worth a try anyway winters no here yet.

trax · Nov 25, 2014

people use farm jacks as well

Turboman · Nov 25, 2014

top drive said:
having looked a bit closer at what exactly a bead breaker is trying to achieve .... i might just make my self one its not exactly precision engineering.

long lever with a pivoting arm + wide contact area + way of holding the rim in place......

a tire bar,a pot o soap and a couple of anchor bolts might be the only thing i need to purchase here - already got pry bar and a pair of molgrips.

worth a try anyway winters no here yet.

I have often changed tractor tyres using levers, it isn't too bad once you get used to it. Plenty of soft soap or similar lube helps the bead slip over the rim.
The old way to break the bead off the rim was to lay the wheel on its side under the tractor, with a big wood block on the side of the tyre, and let the tractor down off the jack onto the block.

top drive · Nov 25, 2014

haha just finished watching a youtube video of a pair of red necks doing it with a 4x6 and a mini van......

top drive · Nov 25, 2014

i have a spare worn and cracked 7.50 x 16 disco steelie i might have a quick experiment with when im bored - save wrecking good tires.

chris7 · Nov 25, 2014

I change my tyres on my cars using just 2 tyre levers and a good pair of heels to break the bead! Its not that I'm gifted but I am very persistent lol regards Chris

Yoyodyne · Nov 25, 2014

We used to do bike tyres with a couple of spoons out of the cutlery drawer ...

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