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Went and briefly looked at a rover p5 with a 3.5efi engine in it.

It appears to have been converted after a fashion timing all to cock and runs like a bag of **** if you try timing it up correctly.

Dubious wiring diagram which seems to be missing a tune resister for non cat/saudi tune and haven't been able to get further into it due to time so far:doh:
why do I have a feeling I'll regret this:doh:

Has auto box and there is manual transmission resistor fitted on auto box setup for a start from what can be deciphered from notes.

No mention of tune resistor, but engine code suggests 1986 on from memory efi-autodata tomorrow to see what it comes from.
 
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Went and briefly looked at a rover p5 with a 3.5efi engine in it.

It appears to have been converted after a fashion timing all to cock and runs like a bag of **** if you try timing it up correctly.

Dubious wiring diagram which seems to be missing a tune resister for non cat/saudi tune and haven't been able to get further into it due to time so far:doh:
why do I have a feeling I'll regret this:doh:

Has auto box and there is manual transmission resistor fitted on auto box setup for a start from what can be deciphered from notes.

No mention of tune resistor, but engine code suggests 1986 on from memory efi-autodata tomorrow to see what it comes from.

wtf is a manual transmission resistor? if its an 86 will be flapper, no cats, saudi got carbs
 
wtf is a manual transmission resistor? if its an 86 will be flapper, no cats, saudi got carbs

efi 24d code engine which is 1986 on as far as I know.

It is hot wire not flapper.

Found a receipt in box of crap says discovery efi

so a 1991 would be non cat and 1992 would be cat

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manual gearbox resistor as listed on ****ty wiring diagram for this one which I thought was neutral on 3.5 and is listed as manual transmission resistor on 3.9

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If I can get a look Tuesday I want to check timing marks are top dead centre, leads are in correct sequence, tune resistor fitted and resistance what ecu is fitted and the manual transmission resistor
 
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Get the ecu fault read to see what it is doing rather than guess

Yes I'm aware of that, but having had a ten minute look at someone else's less than SPECIAL handy work.

There is no point getting excited about Fault codes until the basics like state of wiring/timing and if it has the right tune resistor fitted:D

For my sins I have arranged to have a proper look at it and see what this conversion job is like. the timing is all to cock for a start.

I'll get some pictures of it when it appears-I haven't got as far as checking if the diagnostic socket is still attached yet from this "transplant"

Forgive me for wanting to visually assess what I'm looking at, before venturing further with it.
 
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So far front pulley with timing marks bolted 120 Before top dead centre, pulley has six or so bolts holding it on- guy timed to timing marks and not true tdc
 
Yes I'm aware of that, but having had a ten minute look at someone else's less than SPECIAL handy work.

There is no point getting excited about Fault codes until the basics like state of wiring/timing and if it has the right tune resistor fitted:D

For my sins I have arranged to have a proper look at it and see what this conversion job is like. the timing is all to cock for a start.

I'll get some pictures of it when it appears-I haven't got as far as checking if the diagnostic socket is still attached yet from this "transplant"

Forgive me for wanting to visually assess what I'm looking at, before venturing further with it.

As the ecu holds the faults can't see how playing and guessing will help but hey ho!
Me personal read the faults rectifie them then see what issue arises
 
As the ecu holds the faults can't see how playing and guessing will help but hey ho!
Me personal read the faults rectifie them then see what issue arises

Do we not speak English, can you not read?

when was the last time you saw a car engine stop indicating tdc:doh: checking tdc does not correspond to marks

That the timing marks are on second pulley -checking tdc the marks are not on correct as way out.
It appears key way woodruff must be missing or something odd-will remove and find out

It was obvious that it was too far advanced when you tried to use timing marks that wrongly indicate false TDC which I checked by bringing upto tdc

For your information I marked up tdc with scribe and will unbolt find out what is going on and refit pulley so marks line up correctly-it starts runs and drives now- as soon as the pulley is on I will recheck timing, get fault codes and co2 checked

I do not disagree that it is worth checking the fault codes, but wind your ego in and realise that an obvious timing issue is the first place to start.
 
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P 5 pictures,


until I take the lot off I won't know why the pulley is way off tdc, but it is miles out as if not on key way
 

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Do we not speak English, can you not read?

when was the last time you saw a car engine stop indicating tdc:doh: checking tdc does not correspond to marks

That the timing marks are on second pulley -checking tdc the marks are not on correct as way out.
It appears key way woodruff must be missing or something odd-will remove and find out

It was obvious that it was too far advanced when you tried to use timing marks that wrongly indicate false TDC which I checked by bringing upto tdc

For your information I marked up tdc with scribe and will unbolt find out what is going on and refit pulley so marks line up correctly-it starts runs and drives now- as soon as the pulley is on I will recheck timing, get fault codes and co2 checked

I do not disagree that it is worth checking the fault codes, but wind your ego in and realise that an obvious timing issue is the first place to start.



it is not a case of wind my ego in more a case of you think before you type!
99% of running faults is people who just gues at what is wrong yes you have stated the fault with the timing which i can only asume you have dialed in correctly?
but again guessing at what is the fault is fool hardy and a waste of money but again what do i know? only spend 9 hours a day 7 days a week fixing customers cars around the country never had to gues because im that good ask fett lol
 
it is not a case of wind my ego in more a case of you think before you type!
99% of running faults is people who just gues at what is wrong yes you have stated the fault with the timing which i can only asume you have dialed in correctly?
but again guessing at what is the fault is fool hardy and a waste of money but again what do i know? only spend 9 hours a day 7 days a week fixing customers cars around the country never had to gues because im that good ask fett lol
:violin: your full of it, without seeing what had been done-your **** talking and hoping everyone will praise the ground you walk-wind your neck in as your suffering BBS syndrome:p
Seeing as I don 't need or want your services If your looking to make it personal- it really doesn't worry me one bit and I find your ego laughable-grow up:hysterically_laughi

As for money wasted-what money as nothing spent-local Land rover independent wouldn't touch it.
:tea: free day out at classic car show with Daimler hopefully.
Amplifier on original distributor faulty, guy fitted replacement distributor and believed timing marks and didn't check with timing light- with timing light it was apparent there was an issue and physically checking tdc and marking it

Guy does not want pulley removed:doh: my best guess is woodruff key missing and or damaged.


Distributor reset with timing light, co set and no fault codes-no pinking and **** myself when guy drove it like z cars round roundabout.
 
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