touchwood777

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Suddenly my pet develop vibration and rotten egg smell from the pipe. after checking and replacing the spark and HT wire on the cylinder 1, nothing change... I keep the roughness
in cylinder 1 and NO FAULT CODE. do not know what to do..

here is the diagnostic screenshot
rougness1.jpg

air-fuelling1.jpg

o2-1.jpg

general.jpg


please advice.

Thanks
 
Do all the plugs look the same colour?
It could still be a bad plug or lead.
You never get 100% firing on every cylinder every time, that's normal. There's a rolling threshold before it trips a misfire code. 5 isn't ideal but it's not really bad.
Have you done a compression test?
 
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no, 1 and 8 are not on the same coil.
roughness is a rolling misfire count. each increase is an actual misfire, but this doesnt count as an actual misfire event until you have a certain number per minute. i think roughness has to reach ~10, if i recall correctly
however, the firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 so if 1 and 8 have more misfires than the rest then this might be something you feel.
you can measure the resistance of your plug leads, make sure it doesnt spike as you wiggle each end.
from the manual;
This (roughness) value will increase the more unevenly the engine is running. Engine roughness is not displayed if idle.
When the ECU detects a possible misfire, this count value is increased by one. If the value increases to more than
a preset limit within 1000 engine revolutions, a misfire fault is set. If not, the misfire count value will be cleared to 0 and a new count begins. It is normal to expect a certain number of 'false' misfire detections during each count.

that said, if the coil, leads and plug are good then you're left with either a valve problem or cam wear

the coil is good because you dont have corresponding roughness on #5 or #6 - wasted spark system
 
no, 1 and 8 are not on the same coil.
roughness is a rolling misfire count. each increase is an actual misfire, but this doesnt count as an actual misfire event until you have a certain number per minute. i think roughness has to reach ~10, if i recall correctly
however, the firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 so if 1 and 8 have more misfires than the rest then this might be something you feel.
you can measure the resistance of your plug leads, make sure it doesnt spike as you wiggle each end.
from the manual;
This (roughness) value will increase the more unevenly the engine is running. Engine roughness is not displayed if idle.
When the ECU detects a possible misfire, this count value is increased by one. If the value increases to more than
a preset limit within 1000 engine revolutions, a misfire fault is set. If not, the misfire count value will be cleared to 0 and a new count begins. It is normal to expect a certain number of 'false' misfire detections during each count.

that said, if the coil, leads and plug are good then you're left with either a valve problem or cam wear

the coil is good because you dont have corresponding roughness on #5 or #6 - wasted spark system
right now i'd be checking and rechecking the plugs and the leads because its occasional
 
It needs old fashioned engine basics rather the repeated diagnostics, i.e.
  1. Clean or better still replace spark plugs
  2. Test injector spray pattern & clean them. It's easy DIY using a kit like this https://ebay.us/m/cNgk6I
  3. Compression check all cylinders (with spark plugs removed)
  4. Fuel rail pressure (just need a tyre gauge on the test valve)
None of these will log specific faults in the ECU, but just symptoms like you are seeing.

As others have said on RR.net, bad egg smell is probably the CAT's. The fuelling figures look about right.
 
As said it's a wasted spark system, it will spark down 2 leads at the same time. Normally when a coil goes it will impact both cylinders not one.
I would suggest the coil is working fine at this point.

It could be a dodgy injector, but i would say not likely. Yet.

Move the plug to a different cylinder.

Move the plug lead or replace with another of the same length

Do a compression test

Does it get better/worse/same under load?
 

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