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Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com

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MVP wrote:
> ping the gps reviewing dude..
> I've lost your website address and was hoping you'd had a chance to
> review the Avmap Geosat 2, I like the look of it and want to know if
> it'll do what I want.
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.

If that's me then yes we have. See:
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/avmap-geosat2-review.php

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Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
MVP wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2005 13:29:22 +0100, "Darren Griffin -
> PocketGPSWorld.Com" <darren@pocketgpsworld.com> wrote:
>
>> MVP wrote:
>>> ping the gps reviewing dude..
>>> I've lost your website address and was hoping you'd had a chance to
>>> review the Avmap Geosat 2, I like the look of it and want to know if
>>> it'll do what I want.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Mark.
>>
>> If that's me then yes we have. See:
>> http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/avmap-geosat2-review.php
>
>
> Cheers Darren,
> I've got some questions that are probably general ones but some
> specific to this unit.
>
> Maps, can I load new and more detailed maps onto it (I'm thinking
> 1:25k OS maps here).
>
> If I'm using a 1:25k OS map, how accuratly can my position be shown on
> it? and does it also show me which way I'm facing?
>
> If I leave it on and not following a route can it be set to track my
> position and save the route so I can review it later? would be handy
> for me that.
>
> Can I set waypoints? such as if I wander to a spot I want to return to
> can I push a button and have that location saved as a POI kinda thing?
>
> Can I get POI's that'll show me where speed cameras are?
>
> Can the unit constantly display for me my current speed and compass
> heading? (whilst doing other stuff such as giving directions).
>
> also, would you like a link to your site from 4x4info.info?
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.

The AVMap can only use it's own proprietary map software so you cannot use
OS maps etc. Given that it cannot use OS or other topo maps I suspect that
your other questions don't apply but it does not have a tracklog facility
not can it use custom POIs such as our safety cam database. The form factor
is nice but otherwise it's poor and best avoided.

And yes a link would be welcomed :)

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Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
MVP wrote:
> Well then that fecks-up a perfectly good plan..
>
> is there anything else that'll do all that with a nice big screen?
> or should I go to plan B and get a laptop with one of those flippy
> screens and run it all from that? (do those laptops have touch
> sensitive screens?)
>
>> And yes a link would be welcomed :)
>
> Do you have a banner? I'll sort it today.

Tablet PC's have touch screens although most require you use their specific
pen. Alternatively there are in-car monitors 5 or 6" IIRC that have a VGA
input and touch screen. Connected to a laptop this would make a usable
system?

I'll ask our designer to sort out the banner and email to you.


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Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
On Sun, 15 May 2005 17:50:03 +0100, MVP <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net>
made me spill my meths when he wrote:

>Tablet PC is looking like the way to go as I'll need a laptop anyway.
>Is there software that'll do what I want?

I have a Progear tablet pc and used Autoroute with a usb gps puck
recently on a trip to Amsterdam. It was a pain in the arse. The system
worked well enough but the display is hopeless in daylight, a bit like
using the wi-fi trying to work in the garden with one when it's nice
and sunny. It works fine when it's darker etc but I can see the appeal
of the smaller brighter screens. I used a laptop as well and it's
basically the same. I might try a voice controlled system and see if
that helps by not having to rely on a visual cue.

A real shame as it looked so good when leaving the ferry and the
relative darkness but as soon as you hit the daylight it goes out the
window.

Anyone know of a cheap (free?) nav programme that guides you by
speech?
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Wayne Davies, Harrogate 07989 556213

Just another point of view...
www.4x4prejudice.org
 
On Sun, 15 May 2005 17:52:40 GMT, wayne@lardrover.co.uk wrote:

>
>Anyone know of a cheap (free?) nav programme that guides you by
>speech?

I've not tried it but http://www.gpss.co.uk/.

I've said this before but I use gpstrackmaker on the pc, I'll also
port it to the laptop soon, snaffle 1:25000 topos from OS and mark out
my route. I upload this to the Garmin12xl which I carry when walking.
I do the same for a journey to a new destination by car and mount the
gps in a mobile fone carrier on the dash.

I'm told to avoid using the laptop during the actual journey as you
can't look at it and the hdd suffers.

The thing my current arrangement lacks is the re routing ability in
case of traffic jams or closed roads.

AJH

 
On Sun, 15 May 2005 17:52:40 GMT, wayne@lardrover.co.uk wrote:

>On Sun, 15 May 2005 17:50:03 +0100, MVP <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net>
>made me spill my meths when he wrote:
>
>>Tablet PC is looking like the way to go as I'll need a laptop anyway.
>>Is there software that'll do what I want?
>
>I have a Progear tablet pc and used Autoroute with a usb gps puck
>recently on a trip to Amsterdam. It was a pain in the arse. The system
>worked well enough but the display is hopeless in daylight, a bit like
>using the wi-fi trying to work in the garden with one when it's nice
>and sunny. It works fine when it's darker etc but I can see the appeal
>of the smaller brighter screens. I used a laptop as well and it's
>basically the same. I might try a voice controlled system and see if
>that helps by not having to rely on a visual cue.
>
>A real shame as it looked so good when leaving the ferry and the
>relative darkness but as soon as you hit the daylight it goes out the
>window.
>
>Anyone know of a cheap (free?) nav programme that guides you by
>speech?

I think you'll need to upgrade to MapPoint but I've used this with
success, albeit wished I had louder speakers and a better display.

At least the maps will be reasonably up to date - I'm about to pitch
TomTom out of the bloody window. The maps seem to be circa 1974...

--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
MVP wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2005 15:58:38 +0100, "Darren Griffin -
> PocketGPSWorld.Com" <darren@pocketgpsworld.com> wrote:
>
>> MVP wrote:
>>> Well then that fecks-up a perfectly good plan..
>>>
>>> is there anything else that'll do all that with a nice big screen?
>>> or should I go to plan B and get a laptop with one of those flippy
>>> screens and run it all from that? (do those laptops have touch
>>> sensitive screens?)
>>>
>>>> And yes a link would be welcomed :)
>>>
>>> Do you have a banner? I'll sort it today.
>>
>> Tablet PC's have touch screens although most require you use their
>> specific pen. Alternatively there are in-car monitors 5 or 6" IIRC
>> that have a VGA input and touch screen. Connected to a laptop this
>> would make a usable system?
>>
>> I'll ask our designer to sort out the banner and email to you.
>
> Tablet PC is looking like the way to go as I'll need a laptop anyway.
> Is there software that'll do what I want?
>
> mainly regular route planning and navigation,
>
> 1:25k OS mapping, I know about memory map as an example.
>
> display my compass heading and speed on-screen (altitude would be
> handy too).
>
> email the banner to markvarleyphoto at hotmail.com when it's done and
> I'll fix it up.
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.

Memory-Map is the best for off road stuff. 1:25k mapping is only available
in digital form for some national park areas currently. I gave up on my
Tablet for in-car use because I couldn't see the screen due to glare etc.

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Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
Tim Hobbs wrote:
> At least the maps will be reasonably up to date - I'm about to pitch
> TomTom out of the bloody window. The maps seem to be circa 1974...

MapPoint use the same MapData :(


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Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
wayne@lardrover.co.uk wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2005 17:50:03 +0100, MVP <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net>
> made me spill my meths when he wrote:
>
>> Tablet PC is looking like the way to go as I'll need a laptop anyway.
>> Is there software that'll do what I want?
>
> I have a Progear tablet pc and used Autoroute with a usb gps puck
> recently on a trip to Amsterdam. It was a pain in the arse. The system
> worked well enough but the display is hopeless in daylight, a bit like
> using the wi-fi trying to work in the garden with one when it's nice
> and sunny. It works fine when it's darker etc but I can see the appeal
> of the smaller brighter screens. I used a laptop as well and it's
> basically the same. I might try a voice controlled system and see if
> that helps by not having to rely on a visual cue.
>
> A real shame as it looked so good when leaving the ferry and the
> relative darkness but as soon as you hit the daylight it goes out the
> window.
>
> Anyone know of a cheap (free?) nav programme that guides you by
> speech?

InfoMap Navigator. Less than £50 and has full voice, post code, dynamic
routing etc.

--
Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:19 +0100, "Darren Griffin -
PocketGPSWorld.Com" <darren@pocketgpsworld.com> wrote:

>Tim Hobbs wrote:
>> At least the maps will be reasonably up to date - I'm about to pitch
>> TomTom out of the bloody window. The maps seem to be circa 1974...
>
>MapPoint use the same MapData :(

Yes, but rather more recent I think! I think TomTom is actually using
a TeleAtlas release from 2003, the data from which is probably 2 years
old itself.

So no M6 Toll, London is hopeless (it drove me into a park car park
the other day!) and loads of junction changes and developments on the
A1 are missing.

The worst bit is that 50:50 when you drive on a road it doesn't know
about, the software crashes. I pray the forthcoming Navigator is
somewhat improved or I will be binning it for something NavTeq based.




--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
Tim Hobbs wrote:
> Yes, but rather more recent I think! I think TomTom is actually using
> a TeleAtlas release from 2003, the data from which is probably 2 years
> old itself.
>
> So no M6 Toll, London is hopeless (it drove me into a park car park
> the other day!) and loads of junction changes and developments on the
> A1 are missing.
>
> The worst bit is that 50:50 when you drive on a road it doesn't know
> about, the software crashes. I pray the forthcoming Navigator is
> somewhat improved or I will be binning it for something NavTeq based.

V5 has Q4 2004 Release Maps. Sadly Navteq aren't any better, they have just
as many issues as TA.

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Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
On Mon, 16 May 2005 20:25:28 +0100, "Darren Griffin -
PocketGPSWorld.Com" <darren@pocketgpsworld.com> wrote:

>Tim Hobbs wrote:
>> Yes, but rather more recent I think! I think TomTom is actually using
>> a TeleAtlas release from 2003, the data from which is probably 2 years
>> old itself.
>>
>> So no M6 Toll, London is hopeless (it drove me into a park car park
>> the other day!) and loads of junction changes and developments on the
>> A1 are missing.
>>
>> The worst bit is that 50:50 when you drive on a road it doesn't know
>> about, the software crashes. I pray the forthcoming Navigator is
>> somewhat improved or I will be binning it for something NavTeq based.
>
>V5 has Q4 2004 Release Maps. Sadly Navteq aren't any better, they have just
>as many issues as TA.

Any idea when the PDA version and / or the SDK will be available?


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
Tim Hobbs wrote:
> Any idea when the PDA version and / or the SDK will be available?

PDA version is imminent, I have it running here. When I met with TomTom in
April they assured me the SDK would follow shortly after the release of v5
so I'd expect a late June availability.

v5 is worth it IMHO for the PostCode lookup alone but it also adds built-in
POI Alert functionality, Q4 2004 map data, screen refresh is interpolated so
appears smooth to the eye rather than a 1Hz refresh, and traffic, weather
etc are built-in subject to an active PLUS account and data connection.

--
Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
While we're on the topic of GPS's - All the bits of sotware on your
site are labelled as for pocketpc or palm. Surely some of them will
work on normal windows on a PC?
I ask because i was reading the reviews trying to fiund something
suitable to run on a car-pc

While the car-pc isnt quite a 'pocketgps', its not far off!

Or do you have any recomendations for other sites that do the same as
yours but are based towards GPS stuff on proper PC's?

Ta

 
On Tue, 17 May 2005 17:56:29 +0100, "Darren Griffin -
PocketGPSWorld.Com" <darren@pocketgpsworld.com> wrote:

>Tim Hobbs wrote:
>> Any idea when the PDA version and / or the SDK will be available?
>
>PDA version is imminent, I have it running here. When I met with TomTom in
>April they assured me the SDK would follow shortly after the release of v5
>so I'd expect a late June availability.
>
>v5 is worth it IMHO for the PostCode lookup alone but it also adds built-in
>POI Alert functionality, Q4 2004 map data, screen refresh is interpolated so
>appears smooth to the eye rather than a 1Hz refresh, and traffic, weather
>etc are built-in subject to an active PLUS account and data connection.

So TomTom does proper post codes now? One of its most infuriating
features is resolving a suburban postcode to the nearest large town
then refusing to find a street in that suburb because you've
"specified" the town rather than the suburb.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
Tom Woods wrote:
> While we're on the topic of GPS's - All the bits of sotware on your
> site are labelled as for pocketpc or palm. Surely some of them will
> work on normal windows on a PC?
> I ask because i was reading the reviews trying to fiund something
> suitable to run on a car-pc
>
> While the car-pc isnt quite a 'pocketgps', its not far off!
>
> Or do you have any recomendations for other sites that do the same as
> yours but are based towards GPS stuff on proper PC's?
>
> Ta

That's because the software that's labelled for PocketPC/Palm won't run on a
PC ;) For the PC there is Autoroute, Route66, InfoMap Navigator, CoPilot
Laptop and some PDA specific packages that have a PC client such as
Alturion, CoPilot Live and a few more.

--
Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
Tim Hobbs wrote:
> So TomTom does proper post codes now? One of its most infuriating
> features is resolving a suburban postcode to the nearest large town
> then refusing to find a street in that suburb because you've
> "specified" the town rather than the suburb.

Yes, full 7 digit postcodes, only TomTom and AA Navigator offer it
currently.

--
Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:48:08 +0100, "Darren Griffin -
PocketGPSWorld.Com" <darren@pocketgpsworld.com> wrote:

>Tom Woods wrote:
>> While we're on the topic of GPS's - All the bits of sotware on your
>> site are labelled as for pocketpc or palm. Surely some of them will
>> work on normal windows on a PC?
>> I ask because i was reading the reviews trying to fiund something
>> suitable to run on a car-pc
>>
>> While the car-pc isnt quite a 'pocketgps', its not far off!
>>
>> Or do you have any recomendations for other sites that do the same as
>> yours but are based towards GPS stuff on proper PC's?
>>
>> Ta
>
>That's because the software that's labelled for PocketPC/Palm won't run on a
>PC ;) For the PC there is Autoroute, Route66, InfoMap Navigator, CoPilot
>Laptop and some PDA specific packages that have a PC client such as
>Alturion, CoPilot Live and a few more.

None of them are in your software list! I looked through the list and
thought that there must be some of it that ran on a PC!

 
Tom Woods wrote:
> None of them are in your software list! I looked through the list and
> thought that there must be some of it that ran on a PC!

http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/menu_pcstreetrouting.php

I admit the site navigation is poor, re-design is in progress but we do have
a PC Street Routing Section (Right-Hand Column) and any software that has a
PC Client that will also run a GPS is mentioned in the review although those
that do are primarily PocketPC with a limited PC Client except for Alturion
that is equally capable on PC/PocketPC.


--
Darren Griffin
Editor
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
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