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Mike Romain

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-25C out there this morning.

Wife has flat likely due to aluminum rim leaking.

While pumping it up went to check other tires.

Got out her fancy 'digital' gauge.

Dead as a door nail. Gee I wonder if the batteries freeze?

Got regular stick gauge out of my Jeep and verified the rest of the
tires.

Threw digital gauge into garbage where it belongs.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

AC wrote:
>
> Dear all newsgroup reader,
>
> I am trying to do a survey on driver's willingness of purchasing a
> Digital Tire Pressure Gauge, to ensure driving safety.
>
> Please reply group by simply saying "YES" or "NO". Or if you want you
> can also reply group with your comments on this issue.
> Thank you for your corporation.
>
> AC

 
Mike Romain wrote:

> -25C out there this morning.
>
> Wife has flat likely due to aluminum rim leaking.
>
> While pumping it up went to check other tires.
>
> Got out her fancy 'digital' gauge.
>
> Dead as a door nail. Gee I wonder if the batteries freeze?


Gee, if the temperature was -40C and your car doesn't start, do you
wonder if the battery froze? Would you have it towed to a junkyard
believing that's where it belongs?

 
Arif Khokar wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > -25C out there this morning.
> >
> > Wife has flat likely due to aluminum rim leaking.
> >
> > While pumping it up went to check other tires.
> >
> > Got out her fancy 'digital' gauge.
> >
> > Dead as a door nail. Gee I wonder if the batteries freeze?

>
> Gee, if the temperature was -40C and your car doesn't start, do you
> wonder if the battery froze? Would you have it towed to a junkyard
> believing that's where it belongs?


What good is a gauge my wife can only use 6 months of the year and "I"
better not forget it is in her glove box where it belongs or it will
die?

No good at all to answer my own question so it went in the trash. :)

And yes if my or my wife's Jeep battery had of quit, even at -40 I would
have delt with a bad connection, loose belt or tossed the battery in the
recycle trash if it froze or couldn't hold the cold load for sure!

I am in up in The Great White North eh and a good battery is a must!

We are doing a 5 day New Years deep bush run and can expect to see as
low as -40 in the area we are going. Our batteries better be able to
handle it!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
 
Mike Romain wrote:

> Arif Khokar wrote:


>>Gee, if the temperature was -40C and your car doesn't start, do you
>>wonder if the battery froze? Would you have it towed to a junkyard
>>believing that's where it belongs?


> What good is a gauge my wife can only use 6 months of the year and "I"
> better not forget it is in her glove box where it belongs or it will
> die?


IME, they start working again when the temperature goes back up. I have
a digital gauge in my car right now and it still works (the temperature
dropped down to -17 C here).

> And yes if my or my wife's Jeep battery had of quit, even at -40 I would
> have delt with a bad connection, loose belt or tossed the battery in the
> recycle trash if it froze or couldn't hold the cold load for sure!


About 9 years ago, my dad's '93 Volvo 850 wouldn't start the next
morning after the temperature dropped down to -25 C overnight. I assume
the same would happen to any car battery that wasn't kept warm if the
temperature dropped down to -40 C.

> We are doing a 5 day New Years deep bush run and can expect to see as
> low as -40 in the area we are going. Our batteries better be able to
> handle it!


As long as you keep them somewhat warm :)

 

"Arif Khokar" <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> wrote in message
news:pPKxd.6352$L7.359@trnddc05...

>
> IME, they start working again when the temperature goes back up. I have
> a digital gauge in my car right now and it still works (the temperature
> dropped down to -17 C here).
>


Some of them have cheap LCD's that will get slow or fail to display when
they are
cold. As the othe rposter said if it can't work in his environment it's
useless.

> > And yes if my or my wife's Jeep battery had of quit, even at -40 I would
> > have delt with a bad connection, loose belt or tossed the battery in the
> > recycle trash if it froze or couldn't hold the cold load for sure!

>
> About 9 years ago, my dad's '93 Volvo 850 wouldn't start the next
> morning after the temperature dropped down to -25 C overnight. I assume
> the same would happen to any car battery that wasn't kept warm if the
> temperature dropped down to -40 C.
>


It shouldn't happen. A fully charged car battery has an electrolytic
freezing point
of negative 67 degrees Celsius. But I think your being a smartass as the
poster
obviously was meaning -40 below zero Farenheight.

Your father's battery was probably a cheap 400 CCA job. A typical 660 CCA
battery can still deliver over 200 amps of cranking power at -40 F.

> > We are doing a 5 day New Years deep bush run and can expect to see as
> > low as -40 in the area we are going. Our batteries better be able to
> > handle it!

>
> As long as you keep them somewhat warm :)
>


Nonsense, he just needs to have good batteries, not cheapies.

Ted


 
Arif Khokar wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Arif Khokar wrote:

>
> >>Gee, if the temperature was -40C and your car doesn't start, do you
> >>wonder if the battery froze? Would you have it towed to a junkyard
> >>believing that's where it belongs?

>
> > What good is a gauge my wife can only use 6 months of the year and "I"
> > better not forget it is in her glove box where it belongs or it will
> > die?

>
> IME, they start working again when the temperature goes back up. I have
> a digital gauge in my car right now and it still works (the temperature
> dropped down to -17 C here).
>
> > And yes if my or my wife's Jeep battery had of quit, even at -40 I would
> > have delt with a bad connection, loose belt or tossed the battery in the
> > recycle trash if it froze or couldn't hold the cold load for sure!

>
> About 9 years ago, my dad's '93 Volvo 850 wouldn't start the next
> morning after the temperature dropped down to -25 C overnight. I assume
> the same would happen to any car battery that wasn't kept warm if the
> temperature dropped down to -40 C.
>
> > We are doing a 5 day New Years deep bush run and can expect to see as
> > low as -40 in the area we are going. Our batteries better be able to
> > handle it!

>
> As long as you keep them somewhat warm :)


-25 yesterday and both Jeeps started right up. I have excellent
batteries with high CCA'a and fully expect -40 starts. -40C or -40F, no
matter the buggers better turn over. ;-)

On the odd chance it drops way down or someone does have battery issues,
we bring BBQ briquettes and have large pot lids. We either get the BBQ
going in the pot lid or put a mess of coals from the fire in it and sit
it under the oil pan with the hood closed for a while. This will heat
up everything including the battery.

You have to 'really' watch the placement of the BBQ so you don't cook
wires or rubber parts, but our oil pans are pretty open.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
 
In article <newscache$61i29i$8n8$1@news.ipinc.net>,
Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote:
>
>"Arif Khokar" <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> wrote in message
>news:pPKxd.6352$L7.359@trnddc05...
>
>>
>> IME, they start working again when the temperature goes back up. I have
>> a digital gauge in my car right now and it still works (the temperature
>> dropped down to -17 C here).
>>

>
>Some of them have cheap LCD's that will get slow or fail to display when
>they are
>cold. As the othe rposter said if it can't work in his environment it's
>useless.
>
>> > And yes if my or my wife's Jeep battery had of quit, even at -40 I would
>> > have delt with a bad connection, loose belt or tossed the battery in the
>> > recycle trash if it froze or couldn't hold the cold load for sure!

>>
>> About 9 years ago, my dad's '93 Volvo 850 wouldn't start the next
>> morning after the temperature dropped down to -25 C overnight. I assume
>> the same would happen to any car battery that wasn't kept warm if the
>> temperature dropped down to -40 C.
>>

>
>It shouldn't happen. A fully charged car battery has an electrolytic
>freezing point
>of negative 67 degrees Celsius. But I think your being a smartass as the
>poster
>obviously was meaning -40 below zero Farenheight.


-40C = -40F.
 
Arif Khokar proclaimed:

> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> -25C out there this morning.
>> Wife has flat likely due to aluminum rim leaking.
>> While pumping it up went to check other tires.
>>
>> Got out her fancy 'digital' gauge.
>>
>> Dead as a door nail. Gee I wonder if the batteries freeze?

>
>
> Gee, if the temperature was -40C and your car doesn't start, do you
> wonder if the battery froze? Would you have it towed to a junkyard
> believing that's where it belongs?
>

Why not just ask him how cold that would be in Fahrenheit?
 
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in
news:kN6yd.222213$5K2.57880@attbi_s03:

> Arif Khokar proclaimed:
>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>> -25C out there this morning.
>>> Wife has flat likely due to aluminum rim leaking.
>>> While pumping it up went to check other tires.
>>>
>>> Got out her fancy 'digital' gauge.
>>>
>>> Dead as a door nail. Gee I wonder if the batteries freeze?

>>
>>
>> Gee, if the temperature was -40C and your car doesn't start, do you
>> wonder if the battery froze? Would you have it towed to a junkyard
>> believing that's where it belongs?
>>

> Why not just ask him how cold that would be in Fahrenheit?
>


Hmmmm it's the same as -40F. -40F=-40C. As far as witch gauge is better who
cares?? Digital analog unless you're a pro racer is a gauge that is maybe 2
pounds off going to make a big difference in drivability???? I think not.
 
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> "Arif Khokar" <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> wrote:


>>About 9 years ago, my dad's '93 Volvo 850 wouldn't start the next
>>morning after the temperature dropped down to -25 C overnight. I assume
>>the same would happen to any car battery that wasn't kept warm if the
>>temperature dropped down to -40 C.


> It shouldn't happen. A fully charged car battery has an electrolytic
> freezing point of negative 67 degrees Celsius. But I think your
> being a smartass as the poster obviously was meaning -40 below zero
> Farenheight.


-40F - 32 * 5 / 9 = ?

That car was less than 2 years old and still had the battery it came
with from the dealer's lot.

> Your father's battery was probably a cheap 400 CCA job. A typical 660 CCA
> battery can still deliver over 200 amps of cranking power at -40 F.


You're probably right about that.
 

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