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Russell 1

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How does a l322 rangie compair to a 100 series cruiser? Petrol and diesel?
I've got a V8 petrol l322 and it is very nice to drive.
Plus points are:-
Loads of power
Very comfortable
Split tailgate ( good with trailer and useful bench/table).
Good steering lock (helpful for reversing trailers).
Low range with diff (( I think) helpful with trailer).
Looks good although I'm not convinced on the 20 inch wheels.
Negatives are :-
Fairly problematic
10mpg but I can't see any 300hp petrol V8 being much better.
How does a early 2000 year cruiser compair?
I've had a 3.2 shogun and that was good, it handled well, was semi reliable and comfortable but it was a bit lacking in power and looked like a jelly mould. Also the transfer box didn't like to shift in and out of low.
I've also had a discovery td5 and the less said about that the better.
 
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There's an Australian saying.

"If you want to get there, get a Land Rover.

If you want to get back, get a Land Cruiser.":eek:

I guess that's your answer on reliability.

Me. I'd pick an LR over Toyota, mainly because I don't venture to the Outback.;)
 
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Well exactly, the toughest job it will do for me is tow a trailer. I've read about main or bigend bearing failure on the cruisers. It would be interesting to hear people's experiences now they are 20 years old and are £5000-£10000 more than a rangie.

Also I wonder what part prices are like? I don't know if there is a Toyota version of bearmach or paddocks.
 
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Russell 1 said:
How does a l322 rangie compair to a 100 series cruiser? Petrol and diesel?
I've got a V8 petrol l322 and it is very nice to drive.
Plus points are:-
Loads of power
Very comfortable
Split tailgate ( good with trailer and useful bench/table).
Good steering lock (helpful for reversing trailers).
Low range with diff (( I think) helpful with trailer).
Looks good although I'm not convinced on the 20 inch wheels.
Negatives are :-
Fairly problematic
10mpg but I can't see any 300hp petrol V8 being much better.
How does a early 2000 year cruiser compair?
I've had a 3.2 shogun and that was good, it handled well, was semi reliable and comfortable but it was a bit lacking in power and looked like a jelly mould. Also the transfer box didn't like to shift in and out of low.
I've also had a discovery td5 and the less said about that the better.
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10mpg? Lead foot or is that all town/city driving also with a lead foot? My lifted 4.6 V8 p38 does a steady 16-17mpg on crappy short journeys and over 20 on a run.

As for the Toytota, they are meant to be good. Although I doubt very much that they are immune to problems. I think people just tend to shout about them less so. For me, the biggest issues are a somewhat minging exterior design and a very bland looking interior. I would also suspect that on-road the Range Rover is far superior overall. Although in the rough the LC would probably have a slight edge, but likely closer than many would think.
 
Nodge68 said:
There's an Australian saying.

"If you want to get there, get a Land Rover.

If you want to get back, get a Land Cruiser.":eek:

I guess that's your answer on reliability.

Me. I'd pick an LR over Toyota, mainly because I don't venture to the Outback.;)
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Best to go in pairs then for the LR to rescue a stuck LC and the LC to rescue a broke LR
 
or just maintain the LR
They arent maintained, as a rule, because they can go forever. servicing gets skipped, worn parts dont get replaced, until it becomes an unreliable moneypit
if they were looked after like any other vehicle then they'd be a lot more reliable
 
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100 series LC is a great truck..

Far superior to any land rover, in practice.
 
What specifically is better on the land cruiser then?
Re. Mpg it's all isle of wight driving so small roads and town. Also I think it's running a bit rich
 
Mate runs a 2001 land cruiser 3.0td, good car over 200k so far, does'nt need many parts, but when he does bloody hell expensive.
Probably equals out in the end.
 
10mpg is stupendously bad unless it’s with a 6wheeled trailer.
20s are okay on an L322 with correct tyres.
There are plenty around pretty cheap at the moment.
 
Those land cruisers are expensive to buy. I had a Rav4 which is a mini version (er go with me on this) and it was reliable sort of. But zero excitement or experience, zero charisma, zero scope to modify it. Its a safe, reliable buy, but nobody will give it a second glance including you. They are quite anonymous are Toyotas.
Im only saying this as you dissed the D2 Td5 which has so much more to offer.... to ones parts supplier and mechanic.
 
I wouldn't say the disco was all bad but it didn't suit me, poor turning circle, manual gearbox ,high first gear(towing), crashy ride, underpowered and a bad smelling interior . It was however very cheap and easy to work on.
 
ronsealdeath said:
Those land cruisers are expensive to buy. I had a Rav4 which is a mini version (er go with me on this) and it was reliable sort of. But zero excitement or experience, zero charisma, zero scope to modify it. Its a safe, reliable buy, but nobody will give it a second glance including you. They are quite anonymous are Toyotas.
Im only saying this as you dissed the D2 Td5 which has so much more to offer.... to ones parts supplier and mechanic.
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I see what you are saying, the shogun was similar.
 
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I see what you are saying, the shogun was similar.
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I once had a Shogun owner try to assume his was better than my D2 due to bigger engine. I replied with, a lot more power, better 4x4 system, better suspension, and better styling.
 
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I once had a Shogun owner try to assume his was better than my D2 due to bigger engine. I replied with, a lot more power, better 4x4 system, better suspension, and better styling.
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Oh and I mean my D2 with quite a bit of power, and auto disconnecting ARBS.
 
Standard Vs standard the shogun is light years ahead. Loads of torque from low revs. Not like the v-tec style td5. And then you have the ridiculous turning circle, heavy stearing, uncomfortable ride and surprisingly small interior of the D2.
The negative side of the shogun is the expensive parts and difficult to work on. It took me at least a day just to get the fuel pump off.
 
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