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micknkazzyfonce

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Good Morning Everyone.
2013 Discovery 4 sdv6 3.0L Diesel.
Can anybody tell me how to put the engine in neutral without the engine running to enable manual turning of the crankshaft.
It is to align camshaft pulleys for timing pins, also the two revolutions to confirm final timing alignment.
Really struggling to find anything in the workshop manual other than "now turn the crankshaft"

Help would be greatly appreciated.
Mick
 
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mick, people dont understand the question!!, as for myself unles you have selected a gear its in neutral, and you should be able to turn it over,you will have resistance due to all the parts moving and piston rings etc
 
Read up on emergency park release, i think that covers selecting transfer neutral for towing purposes
 
fostythor, many thanks for your reply, I really appreciate the time you fella's give to us non mechanic's ; apologies if it didn't come across clearly. I was thinking that when the engine is turned off, the car goes into park and everything is locked even without the parking break being "on".
So when parked and with the key being inside the car, the crankshaft can be rotated with only compression to overcome. My plan is to change the belts on Monday, but that huge doubt came into my head.
Regards. Mick
 
When it's in park, you can start the car and it won't move, therefore must be in neutral. Same when the ignition is off
 
kermit_rr said:
Read up on emergency park release, i think that covers selecting transfer neutral for towing purposes
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Hi kermit, I can't see anything specific in the owners book other than if the engine is turned off while in neutral, after 10min it automatically shifts to park, and car's with a rotary selector go to park when turned off, & cannot be towed on 4wheels "seek qualified help". Is the "emergency park release" in the workshop manual ?
Thanks. Mick
 
kermit_rr said:
When it's in park, you can start the car and it won't move, therefore must be in neutral. Same when the ignition is off
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Sounds like I have over thought it kermit, and what you say is logical, I was worried about getting down to the timing belt removal and suddenly not being able to align the timing holes.
 
micknkazzyfonce said:
Sounds like I have over thought it kermit, and what you say is logical, I was worried about getting down to the timing belt removal and suddenly not being able to align the timing holes.
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Easy to over think sometimes!
It can't be towed on 4 wheels without selecting transfer neutral because the wheels are still connected to the gearbox.
 
kermit_rr said:
Easy to over think sometimes!
It can't be towed on 4 wheels without selecting transfer neutral because the wheels are still connected to the gearbox.
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Transfer neutral........thats a bit too technical for me, life was so easy when I had my Sunbeam Rapier, then 2.0Ltr Cortina's in the 70's & 80's.
Ready to change the 2 x front belt's on the D4 next week and am building to the HPFP, and looking forward to doing it. Thanks very much for your clarification.
 
It should be in the owners manual, Ours 2011 L322 is under the cup holders next to the rotary knob.
1 pull cord to release the EPB and a nut to turn to select neutral in the transmission.

Wouldn't imagine its changed much.

J
 
marjon said:
It should be in the owners manual, Ours 2011 L322 is under the cup holders next to the rotary knob.
1 pull cord to release the EPB and a nut to turn to select neutral in the transmission.

Wouldn't imagine its changed much.

J
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Hi marjon, I don't understand why the parking brake should have to be engaged or not if the car can't go anywhere, i.e wheels chocked.
Ours is the L319 & I can't see anything referring to going into transmission neutral, I think trying to turn the crankshaft before anything else might give me a "go ahead or not". Thanks for replying. Mick
 
micknkazzyfonce said:
Hi marjon, I don't understand why the parking brake should have to be engaged or not if the car can't go anywhere, i.e wheels chocked.
Ours is the L319 & I can't see anything referring to going into transmission neutral, I think trying to turn the crankshaft before anything else might give me a "go ahead or not". Thanks for replying. Mick
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I was just trying to explain where your emergency release mech would likely be. If you needed to tow or put the car on a trailer.
so worth further investigation under your cup holders later:).

For what you are doing you should not need either as was said earlier, The engine should turn with a socket on the main pully:).

J
 
marjon said:
I was just trying to explain where your emergency release mech would likely be. If you needed to tow or put the car on a trailer.
so worth further investigation under your cup holders later:).

For what you are doing you should not need either as was said earlier, The engine should turn with a socket on the main pully:).

J
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Thank you so much, from my first question and the great reply, I have much more confidence regards turning the crankshaft, this forum is just so informative. Hopefully I'm about to save myself quite a few quid.
Many thanks. Mick
 
Worst comes to the worst, jack a wheel up in the air or drop a propshaft or two. But i doubt it'll come to that. ;)

EDIT: Thought I was half jokin here!:eek::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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IMO the gist is as shown in the workshop procedure to support the vehicle on axle stands as the wheels to be free and dont apply the parking brake before you disconnect the battery
 
sierrafery said:
IMO the gist is as shown in the workshop procedure to support the vehicle on axle stands as the wheels to be free and dont apply the parking brake before you disconnect the battery
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Good Morning Sierrafery, I have been going straight to "Timing Belt" and not "Starter Motor", absolutely straightforward, "Lift and Support the Vehicle" c/w a warning Red Triangle.
Thanks very much for reply, now I can crack on in the morning.
Regards Mick
 
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