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Alistair Bell

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Hi all,

Having inspected the noise/clunk/squeak coming from the transmission
when coming off power I've found the front prop shaft joint at transfer
box end to be very slack. So the question is is this a relatively easy
thing to do myself, I come in at fairly competent DIY and know a couple
of people round about who are definite competent mechanics for when I
get stuck. Is it likely to be worth doing just the joint myself or will
it likely develop when I get it apart and end up with me in too deep?

Thanks for any advice. Need to start somewhere with looking after the
beast myself, is this a good place to start?

Cheers

Alistair

 
On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 23:26:08 +0100, Alistair Bell
<bellalistairusenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Having inspected the noise/clunk/squeak coming from the transmission
>when coming off power I've found the front prop shaft joint at transfer
>box end to be very slack. So the question is is this a relatively easy
>thing to do myself, I come in at fairly competent DIY and know a couple
>of people round about who are definite competent mechanics for when I
>get stuck. Is it likely to be worth doing just the joint myself or will
>it likely develop when I get it apart and end up with me in too deep?


Yes, its a fairly simple thing to do yourself (in principle). You need
to take off the offending prop, then knock the old UJ out (an old
socket or wheel nut works well as a drift), and then knock the new one
in (theres usually some circlips to remove from the ends first too)

Be careful when your putting the new ones in not to mess up the roller
bearings in the caps else you'll be doing it all again!

Theres a lot of old threads about it, which may give you some hints.
like this one: http://tinyurl.com/2ba5j

Sounds simple, but they hardly ever come out easily, and you will
probably end up swearing a lot and hitting things with big hammers
lots, so reserve a few hours for the job just in case!

good luck

>Thanks for any advice. Need to start somewhere with looking after the
>beast myself, is this a good place to start?


we try! :)

 
In article <2koq46F4nf07U1@uni-berlin.de>, bellalistairusenet@yahoo.co.uk
(Alistair Bell) wrote:

> Having inspected the noise/clunk/squeak coming from the transmission
> when coming off power I've found the front prop shaft joint at transfer
> box end to be very slack. So the question is is this a relatively easy
> thing to do myself, I come in at fairly competent DIY and know a couple
> of people round about who are definite competent mechanics for when I
> get stuck. Is it likely to be worth doing just the joint myself or will
> it likely develop when I get it apart and end up with me in too deep?


It's a simple enough job to do made easier if you have access to a decent
bench vice. You may find the old UJ caps are very tight in the joint
though and can take some serious punishment with a hammer before they come
out. Forget the cr@p in the Haynes 'Book of Lies' about tapping it with a
hammer and they'll pop out.

You might find it a better proposal though to pickup a second hand
propshaft from a breaker or someone (about 20ukp) and fit that whilst
you're refurbishing the old one as that way you're not going to be off the
road whilst doing it.

Cheers
Gary
 
On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:12:57 GMT, Gary_News@HarrowdenIT.co.uk (Gary
Sutherland) wrote:

> Forget the cr@p in the Haynes 'Book of Lies' about tapping it with a
>hammer and they'll pop out.


Where the haynes says 'tap', it means 'repeatedly hit it with the
largest hammer you own while swearing at it loudly. Try not to miss
too many times as you may break things'.
 
Having done it, it's worth getting a propshaft tool (wine glass shaped
socket) for undoing the nuts on the propshaft flanges. Removal took 3 days
and ended up with extensions, socket, an impact driver, and club hammer - of
course it was only one nut that was difficult! If you get stuck I was told
you can always engage difflock and leave the shaft out.
--
Bob Miller
1990 ex-RAF 110 3.5 V8 17KJ83
3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17

"Tom Woods" <tomarse_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:af9ge0drpb4l9kh60rpvjd86fej7at5aso@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:12:57 GMT, Gary_News@HarrowdenIT.co.uk (Gary
> Sutherland) wrote:
>
> > Forget the cr@p in the Haynes 'Book of Lies' about tapping it with a
> >hammer and they'll pop out.

>
> Where the haynes says 'tap', it means 'repeatedly hit it with the
> largest hammer you own while swearing at it loudly. Try not to miss
> too many times as you may break things'.



 

Thanks all for helpful comment (including Austin, the second attempt
came direct to me too!).
Fortunately today I have access to a second vehicle so the propshaft is
off and the joint out (worryingly easily, very little brute force and
ignorance required, presumably it's saving something really nasty for
reassembly) now all I've got to do is get the new one on...

Thanks

Alistair

 
On or around Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:37:12 +0100, Alistair Bell
<bellalistairusenet@yahoo.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>Thanks all for helpful comment (including Austin, the second attempt
>came direct to me too!).


must've been a bad day. or you've got the follow-up set oddly...

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria"
- Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321) from Divina Commedia 'Inferno'
 
On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 23:26:08 +0100, Alistair Bell
<bellalistairusenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Having inspected the noise/clunk/squeak coming from the transmission
>when coming off power I've found the front prop shaft joint at transfer
>box end to be very slack. So the question is is this a relatively easy
>thing to do myself, I come in at fairly competent DIY and know a couple
>of people round about who are definite competent mechanics for when I
>get stuck. Is it likely to be worth doing just the joint myself or will
>it likely develop when I get it apart and end up with me in too deep?


Yes, its a fairly simple thing to do yourself (in principle). You need
to take off the offending prop, then knock the old UJ out (an old
socket or wheel nut works well as a drift), and then knock the new one
in (theres usually some circlips to remove from the ends first too)

Be careful when your putting the new ones in not to mess up the roller
bearings in the caps else you'll be doing it all again!

Theres a lot of old threads about it, which may give you some hints.
like this one: http://tinyurl.com/2ba5j

Sounds simple, but they hardly ever come out easily, and you will
probably end up swearing a lot and hitting things with big hammers
lots, so reserve a few hours for the job just in case!

good luck

>Thanks for any advice. Need to start somewhere with looking after the
>beast myself, is this a good place to start?


we try! :)

 
In article <2koq46F4nf07U1@uni-berlin.de>, bellalistairusenet@yahoo.co.uk
(Alistair Bell) wrote:

> Having inspected the noise/clunk/squeak coming from the transmission
> when coming off power I've found the front prop shaft joint at transfer
> box end to be very slack. So the question is is this a relatively easy
> thing to do myself, I come in at fairly competent DIY and know a couple
> of people round about who are definite competent mechanics for when I
> get stuck. Is it likely to be worth doing just the joint myself or will
> it likely develop when I get it apart and end up with me in too deep?


It's a simple enough job to do made easier if you have access to a decent
bench vice. You may find the old UJ caps are very tight in the joint
though and can take some serious punishment with a hammer before they come
out. Forget the cr@p in the Haynes 'Book of Lies' about tapping it with a
hammer and they'll pop out.

You might find it a better proposal though to pickup a second hand
propshaft from a breaker or someone (about 20ukp) and fit that whilst
you're refurbishing the old one as that way you're not going to be off the
road whilst doing it.

Cheers
Gary
 
On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:12:57 GMT, Gary_News@HarrowdenIT.co.uk (Gary
Sutherland) wrote:

> Forget the cr@p in the Haynes 'Book of Lies' about tapping it with a
>hammer and they'll pop out.


Where the haynes says 'tap', it means 'repeatedly hit it with the
largest hammer you own while swearing at it loudly. Try not to miss
too many times as you may break things'.
 
Having done it, it's worth getting a propshaft tool (wine glass shaped
socket) for undoing the nuts on the propshaft flanges. Removal took 3 days
and ended up with extensions, socket, an impact driver, and club hammer - of
course it was only one nut that was difficult! If you get stuck I was told
you can always engage difflock and leave the shaft out.
--
Bob Miller
1990 ex-RAF 110 3.5 V8 17KJ83
3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17

"Tom Woods" <tomarse_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:af9ge0drpb4l9kh60rpvjd86fej7at5aso@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:12:57 GMT, Gary_News@HarrowdenIT.co.uk (Gary
> Sutherland) wrote:
>
> > Forget the cr@p in the Haynes 'Book of Lies' about tapping it with a
> >hammer and they'll pop out.

>
> Where the haynes says 'tap', it means 'repeatedly hit it with the
> largest hammer you own while swearing at it loudly. Try not to miss
> too many times as you may break things'.



 

Thanks all for helpful comment (including Austin, the second attempt
came direct to me too!).
Fortunately today I have access to a second vehicle so the propshaft is
off and the joint out (worryingly easily, very little brute force and
ignorance required, presumably it's saving something really nasty for
reassembly) now all I've got to do is get the new one on...

Thanks

Alistair

 
On or around Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:37:12 +0100, Alistair Bell
<bellalistairusenet@yahoo.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>Thanks all for helpful comment (including Austin, the second attempt
>came direct to me too!).


must've been a bad day. or you've got the follow-up set oddly...

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria"
- Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321) from Divina Commedia 'Inferno'
 
On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:12:57 GMT, Gary_News@HarrowdenIT.co.uk (Gary
Sutherland) wrote:

> Forget the cr@p in the Haynes 'Book of Lies' about tapping it with a
>hammer and they'll pop out.


Where the haynes says 'tap', it means 'repeatedly hit it with the
largest hammer you own while swearing at it loudly. Try not to miss
too many times as you may break things'.
 
Having done it, it's worth getting a propshaft tool (wine glass shaped
socket) for undoing the nuts on the propshaft flanges. Removal took 3 days
and ended up with extensions, socket, an impact driver, and club hammer - of
course it was only one nut that was difficult! If you get stuck I was told
you can always engage difflock and leave the shaft out.
--
Bob Miller
1990 ex-RAF 110 3.5 V8 17KJ83
3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17

"Tom Woods" <tomarse_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:af9ge0drpb4l9kh60rpvjd86fej7at5aso@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:12:57 GMT, Gary_News@HarrowdenIT.co.uk (Gary
> Sutherland) wrote:
>
> > Forget the cr@p in the Haynes 'Book of Lies' about tapping it with a
> >hammer and they'll pop out.

>
> Where the haynes says 'tap', it means 'repeatedly hit it with the
> largest hammer you own while swearing at it loudly. Try not to miss
> too many times as you may break things'.



 

Thanks all for helpful comment (including Austin, the second attempt
came direct to me too!).
Fortunately today I have access to a second vehicle so the propshaft is
off and the joint out (worryingly easily, very little brute force and
ignorance required, presumably it's saving something really nasty for
reassembly) now all I've got to do is get the new one on...

Thanks

Alistair

 
On or around Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:37:12 +0100, Alistair Bell
<bellalistairusenet@yahoo.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>Thanks all for helpful comment (including Austin, the second attempt
>came direct to me too!).


must've been a bad day. or you've got the follow-up set oddly...

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria"
- Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321) from Divina Commedia 'Inferno'
 

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