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Paul S. Brown

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• Nov 6, 2005

• #1

Apparently last night was a doozy - at 4pm today neither Autoglass nor
Auto Windscreens were booking any more appointments for today and half
of tomorrow had gone - apparently the toerags were using the cover of
loud banging sounds to cover them breaking into cars.

Cost for a replacement door window from Auto Windscreens - £285 and
pennies. Autoglass don't have any available.

No - my insurance policy doesn't appear to have glass cover, but because
the policy document has my name and the car reg on it and doesn't even
state fully comp or TPFT, I have no idea whether this is the case.

Anybody know how difficult a butchered steering lock is to replace? The
little bastards sawed the wires off the back of it and destroyed the
cowling.

In an unusual fit of efficiency I've got a SOCO coming out tomorrow to
dust everything for prints. I expect this to make the car dirty and to
prove that nobody other than me has been near it, but hey!.

P.

 

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Nige

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• Nov 6, 2005

• #2

Paul S. Brown wrote:
> Apparently last night was a doozy - at 4pm today neither Autoglass nor
> Auto Windscreens were booking any more appointments for today and half
> of tomorrow had gone - apparently the toerags were using the cover of
> loud banging sounds to cover them breaking into cars.
>
> Cost for a replacement door window from Auto Windscreens - £285 and
> pennies. Autoglass don't have any available.
>
> No - my insurance policy doesn't appear to have glass cover, but
> because the policy document has my name and the car reg on it and
> doesn't even state fully comp or TPFT, I have no idea whether this is
> the case.
>
> Anybody know how difficult a butchered steering lock is to replace?
> The little bastards sawed the wires off the back of it and destroyed
> the cowling.
>
> In an unusual fit of efficiency I've got a SOCO coming out tomorrow to
> dust everything for prints. I expect this to make the car dirty and to
> prove that nobody other than me has been near it, but hey!.
>
> P.

**** me sideways with a French rioters brick, that is a lot of money for a window! Is it for the Disco?
Crikey, you could get one from a scrappers for a tenner i bet.

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Steve

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• Nov 6, 2005

• #3

Nige wrote:
> Paul S. Brown wrote:
>> Apparently last night was a doozy - at 4pm today neither Autoglass nor
>> Auto Windscreens were booking any more appointments for today and half
>> of tomorrow had gone - apparently the toerags were using the cover of
>> loud banging sounds to cover them breaking into cars.
>>
>> Cost for a replacement door window from Auto Windscreens - £285 and
>> pennies. Autoglass don't have any available.
>>
>> No - my insurance policy doesn't appear to have glass cover, but
>> because the policy document has my name and the car reg on it and
>> doesn't even state fully comp or TPFT, I have no idea whether this is
>> the case.
>>
>> Anybody know how difficult a butchered steering lock is to replace?
>> The little bastards sawed the wires off the back of it and destroyed
>> the cowling.
>>
>> In an unusual fit of efficiency I've got a SOCO coming out tomorrow to
>> dust everything for prints. I expect this to make the car dirty and to
>> prove that nobody other than me has been near it, but hey!.
>>
>> P.
>
> **** me sideways with a French rioters brick, that is a lot of money for a window! Is it for the Disco?
> Crikey, you could get one from a scrappers for a tenner i bet.

If its a Disco I, all the glass on the Corpse is still intact. Which do
you want ?

Steve

 

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Tim Hobbs

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• Nov 6, 2005

• #4

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:57:05 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
<usenet060103@geekstuff.tv> wrote:

>Apparently last night was a doozy - at 4pm today neither Autoglass nor
>Auto Windscreens were booking any more appointments for today and half
>of tomorrow had gone - apparently the toerags were using the cover of
>loud banging sounds to cover them breaking into cars.
>
>Cost for a replacement door window from Auto Windscreens - £285 and
>pennies. Autoglass don't have any available.
>
>No - my insurance policy doesn't appear to have glass cover, but because
>the policy document has my name and the car reg on it and doesn't even
>state fully comp or TPFT, I have no idea whether this is the case.
>
>Anybody know how difficult a butchered steering lock is to replace? The
>little bastards sawed the wires off the back of it and destroyed the
>cowling.
>
>In an unusual fit of efficiency I've got a SOCO coming out tomorrow to
>dust everything for prints. I expect this to make the car dirty and to
>prove that nobody other than me has been near it, but hey!.
>
>P.

The 'wirey bit' just plugs onto the back of the steering lock - 2 or 3
little grub screws hold it on. There's some "one shot" bolts to hold
the actual lock on - a chisel job to get them off, but with a bit of
careful work with the chisel you can get them back on if you really
need to.

I guess you'll need to get the 'wirey bit' and work out whether it's
easier to replace the whole thing or just splice what's left of the
wires you have.

From memory, the lock is about £100 genuine and another £30-40 if you
want to match the existing key. Sounds like you don't actually need
it though.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70

 

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Ian Rawlings

Guest

• Nov 6, 2005

• #5

On 2005-11-06, Paul S. Brown <usenet060103@geekstuff.tv> wrote:

> Apparently last night was a doozy - at 4pm today neither Autoglass nor
> Auto Windscreens were booking any more appointments for today and half
> of tomorrow had gone - apparently the toerags were using the cover of
> loud banging sounds to cover them breaking into cars.

Please, next time you use the word "toe-rags" in public, could you
hyphenate it? I spent a good minute or so wondering about thieves on
camels wandering around your area. Very perplexing. I know it's
spelt with a "u" but...

> Cost for a replacement door window from Auto Windscreens - £285 and
> pennies. Autoglass don't have any available.

Jesus H, is that with gold filament heating element and busty blonde
demister?

How about just breaking into someone else's car and knicking their
windows? Take a camel and throw the police off the scent.

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Nige

Guest

• Nov 6, 2005

• #6

Touareg

"Ian Rawlings" <news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
news:slrndmsm10.dni.news05@gate-int.tarcus.org.uk...
> On 2005-11-06, Paul S. Brown <usenet060103@geekstuff.tv> wrote:
>
>> Apparently last night was a doozy - at 4pm today neither Autoglass nor
>> Auto Windscreens were booking any more appointments for today and half
>> of tomorrow had gone - apparently the toerags were using the cover of
>> loud banging sounds to cover them breaking into cars.
>
> Please, next time you use the word "toe-rags" in public, could you
> hyphenate it? I spent a good minute or so wondering about thieves on
> camels wandering around your area. Very perplexing. I know it's
> spelt with a "u" but...
>
>> Cost for a replacement door window from Auto Windscreens - £285 and
>> pennies. Autoglass don't have any available.
>
> Jesus H, is that with gold filament heating element and busty blonde
> demister?
>
> How about just breaking into someone else's car and knicking their
> windows? Take a camel and throw the police off the scent.
>
> --
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Ian Rawlings

Guest

• Nov 6, 2005

• #7

On 2005-11-06, Nige <nigel.inceEATMYSHORTS@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Touareg

Possibly, or Tuareg, there seems to be a few different spellings of
it, they're Moroccan/Saharan/African etc and websites from the area
spell it either way it seems. I couldn't be bothered to try to
investigate further given that I was only mucking about anyway!

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beamendsltd

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• Nov 7, 2005

• #8

In message <qumsm1d7qp26hs6i0fq66k90ru5sc3n3nc@4ax.com>
Tim Hobbs <tim@spam.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:57:05 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
> <usenet060103@geekstuff.tv> wrote:
>
> >Apparently last night was a doozy - at 4pm today neither Autoglass nor
> >Auto Windscreens were booking any more appointments for today and half
> >of tomorrow had gone - apparently the toerags were using the cover of
> >loud banging sounds to cover them breaking into cars.
> >
> >Cost for a replacement door window from Auto Windscreens - £285 and
> >pennies. Autoglass don't have any available.
> >
> >No - my insurance policy doesn't appear to have glass cover, but because
> >the policy document has my name and the car reg on it and doesn't even
> >state fully comp or TPFT, I have no idea whether this is the case.
> >
> >Anybody know how difficult a butchered steering lock is to replace? The
> >little bastards sawed the wires off the back of it and destroyed the
> >cowling.
> >
> >In an unusual fit of efficiency I've got a SOCO coming out tomorrow to
> >dust everything for prints. I expect this to make the car dirty and to
> >prove that nobody other than me has been near it, but hey!.
> >
> >P.
>
> The 'wirey bit' just plugs onto the back of the steering lock - 2 or 3
> little grub screws hold it on. There's some "one shot" bolts to hold
> the actual lock on - a chisel job to get them off, but with a bit of
> careful work with the chisel you can get them back on if you really
> need to.
>
> I guess you'll need to get the 'wirey bit' and work out whether it's
> easier to replace the whole thing or just splice what's left of the
> wires you have.
>
> From memory, the lock is about £100 genuine and another £30-40 if you
> want to match the existing key. Sounds like you don't actually need
> it though.
>
>

(Assuming 200tdi Discovery I)

STC981 Steering Column Lock - Complete - Discovery I 200Tdi £52.87 inc VAT

or

PRC3408 Ignition Switch - Discovery I 200Tdi £38.07 inc VAT

I've not tried it on a Discovery, but on a Defender it is possible
to change the Ignition Switch without removing the lock using a
small Allen key to remove and replace the three tiny screws.

Richard
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Tim Hobbs

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• Nov 7, 2005

• #9

>
>(Assuming 200tdi Discovery I)
>
>STC981 Steering Column Lock - Complete - Discovery I 200Tdi £52.87 inc VAT
>
>or
>
>PRC3408 Ignition Switch - Discovery I 200Tdi £38.07 inc VAT
>
>I've not tried it on a Discovery, but on a Defender it is possible
>to change the Ignition Switch without removing the lock using a
>small Allen key to remove and replace the three tiny screws.
>
>Richard

Mine was a 300, which may be more expensive. My prices were also from
a main dealer, which I'm sure didn't help much!

From memory I'm sure you could fit the ignition switch with the lock
in-situ, but the tamper bolts are cheap enough for it not to be worth
the hassle if it isn't dead easy.

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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70

 

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Paul S. Brown

Guest

• Nov 7, 2005

• #10

Tim Hobbs wrote:

>
>>
>>(Assuming 200tdi Discovery I)
>>
>>STC981 Steering Column Lock - Complete - Discovery I 200Tdi £52.87 inc
>>VAT
>>
>>or
>>
>>PRC3408 Ignition Switch - Discovery I 200Tdi £38.07 inc VAT
>>
>>I've not tried it on a Discovery, but on a Defender it is possible
>>to change the Ignition Switch without removing the lock using a
>>small Allen key to remove and replace the three tiny screws.
>>
>>Richard
>
> Mine was a 300, which may be more expensive. My prices were also from
> a main dealer, which I'm sure didn't help much!
>
> From memory I'm sure you could fit the ignition switch with the lock
> in-situ, but the tamper bolts are cheap enough for it not to be worth
> the hassle if it isn't dead easy.
>

I've just had a look at it - the switch housing has been completely
butchered.

For reference, the electrical wiring on a 200 doesn't use a modular plug
- it's attached to the switch.

I think I'm going to do something "creative" with the starter on this
thing and see if I can cause problems for anybody else who tries to
nick it. One thought is having the starter rigged as a reed switch
behind one of the dash panels - any other thoughts?

I'm also planning on getting a painfully loud alarm and mounting the
sounder about where the drivers left knee is (I think there's enough
room inside the dash). That should stop any little bastard hanging
around long enough to do anything major to the car.

P.

 

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beamendsltd

Guest

• Nov 7, 2005

• #11

In message <4842996.c6Y0mfPcvS@PolMobile>
"Paul S. Brown" <usenet060103@geekstuff.tv> wrote:

> Tim Hobbs wrote:
>
> >
> >>
> >>(Assuming 200tdi Discovery I)
> >>
> >>STC981 Steering Column Lock - Complete - Discovery I 200Tdi £52.87 inc
> >>VAT
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >>PRC3408 Ignition Switch - Discovery I 200Tdi £38.07 inc VAT
> >>
> >>I've not tried it on a Discovery, but on a Defender it is possible
> >>to change the Ignition Switch without removing the lock using a
> >>small Allen key to remove and replace the three tiny screws.
> >>
> >>Richard
> >
> > Mine was a 300, which may be more expensive. My prices were also from
> > a main dealer, which I'm sure didn't help much!
> >
> > From memory I'm sure you could fit the ignition switch with the lock
> > in-situ, but the tamper bolts are cheap enough for it not to be worth
> > the hassle if it isn't dead easy.
> >
>
> I've just had a look at it - the switch housing has been completely
> butchered.
>
> For reference, the electrical wiring on a 200 doesn't use a modular plug
> - it's attached to the switch.
>
> I think I'm going to do something "creative" with the starter on this
> thing and see if I can cause problems for anybody else who tries to
> nick it. One thought is having the starter rigged as a reed switch
> behind one of the dash panels - any other thoughts?
>
> I'm also planning on getting a painfully loud alarm and mounting the
> sounder about where the drivers left knee is (I think there's enough
> room inside the dash). That should stop any little bastard hanging
> around long enough to do anything major to the car.
>
> P.

Have a hidden switch on the glow plug/fuel cut-off solenoid (white)
lead could be worth a try - on the basis that it will appear to try
to start and hopefully keep them occupied for most of the (so they
say) 3 mins they are prepared to spend on the motor.

Leaving it in low box also has the entertaining possiblility that they
may try and bump start it (head->windscreen).

Just my 2p's worth.

Richard

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Tim Hobbs

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• Nov 7, 2005

• #12

On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:35:49 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
<usenet060103@geekstuff.tv> wrote:

>Tim Hobbs wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>>(Assuming 200tdi Discovery I)
>>>
>>>STC981 Steering Column Lock - Complete - Discovery I 200Tdi £52.87 inc
>>>VAT
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>PRC3408 Ignition Switch - Discovery I 200Tdi £38.07 inc VAT
>>>
>>>I've not tried it on a Discovery, but on a Defender it is possible
>>>to change the Ignition Switch without removing the lock using a
>>>small Allen key to remove and replace the three tiny screws.
>>>
>>>Richard
>>
>> Mine was a 300, which may be more expensive. My prices were also from
>> a main dealer, which I'm sure didn't help much!
>>
>> From memory I'm sure you could fit the ignition switch with the lock
>> in-situ, but the tamper bolts are cheap enough for it not to be worth
>> the hassle if it isn't dead easy.
>>
>
>I've just had a look at it - the switch housing has been completely
>butchered.
>
>For reference, the electrical wiring on a 200 doesn't use a modular plug
>- it's attached to the switch.
>
>I think I'm going to do something "creative" with the starter on this
>thing and see if I can cause problems for anybody else who tries to
>nick it. One thought is having the starter rigged as a reed switch
>behind one of the dash panels - any other thoughts?
>
>I'm also planning on getting a painfully loud alarm and mounting the
>sounder about where the drivers left knee is (I think there's enough
>room inside the dash). That should stop any little bastard hanging
>around long enough to do anything major to the car.
>
>P.

Last time I was at Gaydon (last year I think) a bloke had about 50
Rangie ones (which sound the same as you are describing) for £20 each.
Lock and switch all in one, but no good for a 300.
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'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70

 

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beamendsltd

Guest

• Nov 8, 2005

• #13

In message <dv1vm115v28vd04ea1dq6ge8vp98kaofld@4ax.com>
Tim Hobbs <tim@spam.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:35:49 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
> <usenet060103@geekstuff.tv> wrote:
>
> >Tim Hobbs wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>>(Assuming 200tdi Discovery I)
> >>>
> >>>STC981 Steering Column Lock - Complete - Discovery I 200Tdi £52.87 inc
> >>>VAT
> >>>
> >>>or
> >>>
> >>>PRC3408 Ignition Switch - Discovery I 200Tdi £38.07 inc VAT
> >>>
> >>>I've not tried it on a Discovery, but on a Defender it is possible
> >>>to change the Ignition Switch without removing the lock using a
> >>>small Allen key to remove and replace the three tiny screws.
> >>>
> >>>Richard
> >>
> >> Mine was a 300, which may be more expensive. My prices were also from
> >> a main dealer, which I'm sure didn't help much!
> >>
> >> From memory I'm sure you could fit the ignition switch with the lock
> >> in-situ, but the tamper bolts are cheap enough for it not to be worth
> >> the hassle if it isn't dead easy.
> >>
> >
> >I've just had a look at it - the switch housing has been completely
> >butchered.
> >
> >For reference, the electrical wiring on a 200 doesn't use a modular plug
> >- it's attached to the switch.
> >
> >I think I'm going to do something "creative" with the starter on this
> >thing and see if I can cause problems for anybody else who tries to
> >nick it. One thought is having the starter rigged as a reed switch
> >behind one of the dash panels - any other thoughts?
> >
> >I'm also planning on getting a painfully loud alarm and mounting the
> >sounder about where the drivers left knee is (I think there's enough
> >room inside the dash). That should stop any little bastard hanging
> >around long enough to do anything major to the car.
> >
> >P.
>
> Last time I was at Gaydon (last year I think) a bloke had about 50
> Rangie ones (which sound the same as you are describing) for £20 each.
> Lock and switch all in one, but no good for a 300.

STC1435 Steering Column Lock - Complete - Discovery I 300Tdi £82.25
inc VAT, £101.00 plus VAT Genuine

unless you have an auto with interlock......

Richard


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