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Hi I own a disco 2 ser td5 2000 plate and I have a hobby 720 ukfe and iv been reading alot on the net about disco's have the power but they are to light and there for against the law to use them but I see alot of peaple use them to pull similar. Can anyone throw zome light on my dilemma.
 
Have you got a weight? Googled it and the hobby website says 1800kg which i stuggle to beilive cos me dads single axle weighs more than that
 
Trailers and caravans are completely different.

The caravan must not be heavier the the car that will get you a ban from driving, and police are cracking down on this,

As long as the van is under 100% of the weight of the tow car, and the tow car is designed to tow that weight you will be legal. But you must fit mirrors that enable you to see past the side of the van and see a vehicle behind you.( £60 fine if you don't fit towing mirrors)

I believe you can now tow a caravan 7 foot 6 wide, as the law changed last year or so,

You should be able to tow your hobby without legal problems..
 
goonarmy said:
Have you got a weight? Googled it and the hobby website says 1800kg which i stuggle to beilive cos me dads single axle weighs more than that
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Blimey goonarmy what your dads caravan built from? Kryptonite ;)

Our two birth is only 850Kg, 980KG max permissable. Most twin axles come in easilly onder 2 tonnes.
 
KillaJoules said:
Blimey goonarmy what your dads caravan built from? Kryptonite ;)

Our two birth is only 850Kg, 980KG max permissable. Most twin axles come in easilly onder 2 tonnes.
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Could be wrong, im sure thats what he sed. Its the biggest single axle you can get cos of the camber off their drive onto the road.
neiltce said:
Trailers and caravans are completely different.

The caravan must not be heavier the the car that will get you a ban from driving, and police are cracking down on this,

As long as the van is under 100% of the weight of the tow car, and the tow car is designed to tow that weight you will be legal. But you must fit mirrors that enable you to see past the side of the van and see a vehicle behind you.( £60 fine if you don't fit towing mirrors)

I believe you can now tow a caravan 7 foot 6 wide, as the law changed last year or so,

You should be able to tow your hobby without legal problems..
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You sure about this? Where are you getting this from?
 
This is all irrelevant. The body lenth is over 7m so you cant tow it with a car accordng to my googling
 
I read lots to keep us legal,, it's in practical caravan amongst other publications.

Yes am very sure..

Just to add, if you take your unit and weight it at a public weigh bridge, weigh the caravan then the car separately, keep the tickets, if the police pull you for a weight check produce the tickets they will generally send you on your way, , if you don't do this they will take you to their nominated weigh bridge that could be miles out of your way.. I know many peeps that do this now..
 
Quick google..


Towing vehicle up to 3500kg GVW
Length (excluding the coupling and drawbar): 7.0m
Width Maximum: 2.55m (was 2.3m up to 2010)
Towing vehicle over 3500kg GVW
Length (excluding the coupling and drawbar): 12m (min 4 wheels
Width Maximum: 2.55m
Length of towing vehicle and trailer combined: 18m
Maximum overhang of load from rear of trailer: 3.05m


Hobby is 7.2 m.... 8 inches to long!!!!!
 
neiltce said:
I read lots to keep us legal,, it's in practical caravan amongst other publications.

Yes am very sure..

Just to add, if you take your unit and weight it at a public weigh bridge, weigh the caravan then the car separately, keep the tickets, if the police pull you for a weight check produce the tickets they will generally send you on your way, , if you don't do this they will take you to their nominated weigh bridge that could be miles out of your way.. I know many peeps that do this now..
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But is it in law cos a trailer over the 100% weight of the vehicle is common? Ive read cc guidelines that say 85% hich i consider over cautious.
 
The law says that a caravan must not exceed the weight of the tow car,
There is a 85% rule that is not law but a guidance to keep your unit stable,

When at 100% the tail is more likely to wag the dog so to speak, and that is when you are more likely to end up on your roof..

Trailers don't come into this rule. As are generally low and better balanced...
 
neiltce said:
The law says that a caravan must not exceed the weight of the tow car,
There is a 85% rule that is not law but a guidance to keep your unit stable,

When at 100% the tail is more likely to wag the dog so to speak, and that is when you are more likely to end up on your roof..

Trailers don't come into this rule. As are generally low and better balanced...
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Its law isnt what i mean. Can you prove it? Do you have a link or anything?
 
All I can find at the moment is this from the camping and caravan club website, but will look into it further as I am on the committee ..

The Camping and Caravanning Club, like many others in the industry, recommends you only tow a caravan that weighs 85 per cent or less of your car’s kerbweight. Those who are experienced at towing may go up to 100 per cent of the car’s kerbweight, but no-one should tow a caravan that is heavier than the towing limit of the vehicle it’s behind. Legally, if you add together the Maximum Authorised Mass (MAM) of your car and the MTPLM of your caravan, the total weight must not exceed the GTW of the car.
 
There is so much ****e spouted about this subject, it is ridiculous. :mad: The law is really simple. If you have category B+E on your driving licence, then you can drive a vehicle with a max gross weight of 3500kg and any trailer provided that;
A. The MAM of the trailer does not exceed the vehicle's max towing weight.
B. The combined weight of vehicle & trailer does not exceed tow vehicles max GTW.
C. If trailer weighs more than 750kg, the trailer has brakes that operate on all axles.
If you do not have B+E on your licence, things are slightly more complicated.
You can tow any trailer up to 750kg behind any vehicle with a MGW of up to 3500kg. You can also tow more than 750kg provided that;
A. The weight of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle.
B. The trailer does not exceed the max towing capacity of the towing vehicle.
C. The total combined weight of the tow vehicle and trailer do not exceed 3500kg or the max GTW of the tow vehicle if that is lower than 3500kg.
The law makes no distinction between trailers, caravans and horseboxes, and there are no limits on number of axles.
The maximum dimensions for trailers you can tow on B or B+E on the road are;
Max length: 7m (excluding coupling & draw bar)
Max width: 2.55m (2.3m before 2010)
Max length of combination: 18m
Max overhang of load over rear of trailer: 3.05m
I regularly tow loads of up to 3500kg (4000kg on last Defender with coupled brake system) and up to 30ft in length. I also occasionally tow under tacho regs, which is a whole different headache.
 
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martin1512 said:
There is so much ****e spouted about this subject, it is ridiculous. :mad: The law is really simple. If you have category B+E on your driving licence, then you can drive a vehicle with a max gross weight of 3500kg and any trailer provided that;
A. The MAM of the trailer does not exceed the vehicle's max towing weight.
B. The combined weight of vehicle & trailer does not exceed tow vehicles max GTW.
C. If trailer weighs more than 750kg, the trailer has brakes that operate on all axles.
If you do not have B+E on your licence, things are slightly more complicated.
You can tow any trailer up to 750kg behind any vehicle with a MGW of up to 3500kg. You can also tow more than 750kg provided that;
A. The weight of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle.
B. The trailer does not exceed the max towing capacity of the towing vehicle.
C. The total combined weight of the tow vehicle and trailer do not exceed 3500kg or the max GTW of the tow vehicle if that is lower than 3500kg.
The law makes no distinction between trailers, caravans and horseboxes, and there are no limits on number of axles.
The maximum dimensions for trailers you can tow on B or B+E on the road are;
Max length: 7m (excluding coupling & draw bar)
Max width: 2.55m (2.3m before 2010)
Max length of combination: 18m
Max overhang of load over rear of trailer: 3.05m
I regularly tow loads of up to 3500kg (4000kg on last Defender with coupled brake system) and up to 30ft in length. I also occasionally tow under tacho regs, which is a whole different headache.
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Can we have C&U regs with that, cos plod aint gonna have a clue:rolleyes:
 
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