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Ian Hamilton

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Defender 90 owner
Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.


 
Was it clunky taking up drive, partic rev to forward,cos it could be your
transfer gear has stripped the mainshaft, a common problem on lt77's. if so
it means a gearbox rebuild or replacement. I had mine done by LEGS of
Oswestry as a same day service for about £750 2 years ago. if it is the prob
& you do a rebuild , be sure to fit a crossdrilled transfer gear to allow
the oil to get to it (thats the reason they wear in the first place, lack of
lube.

Chris
1990 Disco 200 Tdi


 
On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:03:42 GMT, "Ian Hamilton"
<snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:

>Defender 90 owner
>Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
>there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
>causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
>

I'd say you've broken a halfshaft. Engage the difflock and see if it
will go. If so then you're going to have to get busy underneath.

Alex
 
Cheers alex, tried the difflock and still no drive, this is serious isn't
it?
"Alex" <nospam.alex@cbmsys.co.uk> wrote in message
news:urmge0tm5gnh3o2ggtc5uuqoalviejrm5h@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:03:42 GMT, "Ian Hamilton"
> <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> >Defender 90 owner
> >Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
> >there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
> >causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
> >
>
> I'd say you've broken a halfshaft. Engage the difflock and see if it
> will go. If so then you're going to have to get busy underneath.
>
> Alex


 
Unfortunatly for me merlin it has been clunky taking up the drive for ages
now, thanks for your advice, Ian
"Merlin©" <chris@wudumwic.freeserve.NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cc9l4g$rki$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Was it clunky taking up drive, partic rev to forward,cos it could be your
> transfer gear has stripped the mainshaft, a common problem on lt77's. if
so
> it means a gearbox rebuild or replacement. I had mine done by LEGS of
> Oswestry as a same day service for about £750 2 years ago. if it is the
prob
> & you do a rebuild , be sure to fit a crossdrilled transfer gear to allow
> the oil to get to it (thats the reason they wear in the first place, lack
of
> lube.
>
> Chris
> 1990 Disco 200 Tdi
>
>


 
"Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:dTZFc.409$9w3.362@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> Cheers alex, tried the difflock and still no drive, this is serious isn't
> it?

Probably, I'm afraid. I'm with Merlin on the splined shaft theory.


 
"Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> Defender 90 owner
> Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
> there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
> causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
>
>

any drive in difflock? If you have drive in difflock but not with the diff
open most likely halfshaft or sheared cv joint

If no drie in difflock, another option is clutch disintegrated, mine went
with one helluva bang, but stunk of clutch....

More serious options then become gearbox or transfer box prolems

--
Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Vice Chairman, Newsletter Editor and Webmaster (how
much more....)
3.5V8 100" Hybrid, now LPG converted
Part owner of 1976 S3 LWT, currently under restoration
Suzuki SJ410 (Girlfriend's) 3" lift kit fitted, body
shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery (the Pug 106 is dead, long live the Pug)

Peterborough 4x4 Club http://www.peterborough4x4.co.uk



 
On or around Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:36:25 GMT, "Ian Hamilton"
<snoozy.757@virgin.net> enlightened us thusly:

>Cheers alex, tried the difflock and still no drive, this is serious isn't
>it?


sounds a lot like the gearbox output shaft splines have given up the ghost.

your potions include hunting a second-hand box (but it's bit of a lottery if
it's a good 'un, unless you know the donor vehicle)

you can instead rebuild your box or have it rebuilt, or get the pros to
rebuild etc.

as someone else said, make sure you get the "cross-drilled transfer gear",
since otherwise the wear starts again.

It could be summat else, of course, but this is far the most likely as it's
the biggest known cause of death in these things.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.
 
Looking like it is the gearbox, just to let you all know.
"Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:yoZFc.540$Oh4.249@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> Defender 90 owner
> Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
> there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
> causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
>
>


 
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:17:35 GMT, "Ian Hamilton"
<snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:

>Looking like it is the gearbox, just to let you all know.
>"Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote in message
>news:yoZFc.540$Oh4.249@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>> Defender 90 owner
>> Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
>> there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
>> causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
>>
>>
>

Ashcrofts replaced my gearbox and clutch for about £900, including
parts and labour. Make sure you get a new clutch fitted at the same
time, because that will be about ready too and the gearbox has to come
out to do it.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'95 Discovery V8i aka "The Disco" (FOR SALE)
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
Cheers tim, will do , it was already on the list of things to do, would
bloody happen on the sunday when i have a full week off wouldn't it, I was
looking forward to driving it for a bit, nevermind these things are sent to
test us, , cheers Ian.
"Tim Hobbs" <tim@101ambulance-urine.net> wrote in message
news:n8roe050m54uhtofbtr22jk2lufekdjgfr@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:17:35 GMT, "Ian Hamilton"
> <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> >Looking like it is the gearbox, just to let you all know.
> >"Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote in message
> >news:yoZFc.540$Oh4.249@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> >> Defender 90 owner
> >> Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang
and
> >> there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any
possible
> >> causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> Ashcrofts replaced my gearbox and clutch for about £900, including
> parts and labour. Make sure you get a new clutch fitted at the same
> time, because that will be about ready too and the gearbox has to come
> out to do it.
>
>
> --
>
> Tim Hobbs
>
> '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
> '77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
> '95 Discovery V8i aka "The Disco" (FOR SALE)
> '03 Volvo V70
>
> My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
> Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
> Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com


 
Was it clunky taking up drive, partic rev to forward,cos it could be your
transfer gear has stripped the mainshaft, a common problem on lt77's. if so
it means a gearbox rebuild or replacement. I had mine done by LEGS of
Oswestry as a same day service for about £750 2 years ago. if it is the prob
& you do a rebuild , be sure to fit a crossdrilled transfer gear to allow
the oil to get to it (thats the reason they wear in the first place, lack of
lube.

Chris
1990 Disco 200 Tdi


 
On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:03:42 GMT, "Ian Hamilton"
<snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:

>Defender 90 owner
>Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
>there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
>causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
>

I'd say you've broken a halfshaft. Engage the difflock and see if it
will go. If so then you're going to have to get busy underneath.

Alex
 
Cheers alex, tried the difflock and still no drive, this is serious isn't
it?
"Alex" <nospam.alex@cbmsys.co.uk> wrote in message
news:urmge0tm5gnh3o2ggtc5uuqoalviejrm5h@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:03:42 GMT, "Ian Hamilton"
> <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> >Defender 90 owner
> >Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
> >there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
> >causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
> >
>
> I'd say you've broken a halfshaft. Engage the difflock and see if it
> will go. If so then you're going to have to get busy underneath.
>
> Alex


 
Unfortunatly for me merlin it has been clunky taking up the drive for ages
now, thanks for your advice, Ian
"Merlin©" <chris@wudumwic.freeserve.NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cc9l4g$rki$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Was it clunky taking up drive, partic rev to forward,cos it could be your
> transfer gear has stripped the mainshaft, a common problem on lt77's. if
so
> it means a gearbox rebuild or replacement. I had mine done by LEGS of
> Oswestry as a same day service for about £750 2 years ago. if it is the
prob
> & you do a rebuild , be sure to fit a crossdrilled transfer gear to allow
> the oil to get to it (thats the reason they wear in the first place, lack
of
> lube.
>
> Chris
> 1990 Disco 200 Tdi
>
>


 
"Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:dTZFc.409$9w3.362@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> Cheers alex, tried the difflock and still no drive, this is serious isn't
> it?

Probably, I'm afraid. I'm with Merlin on the splined shaft theory.


 
"Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:yoZFc.540$Oh4.249@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> Defender 90 owner
> Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
> there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
> causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
>
>

any drive in difflock? If you have drive in difflock but not with the diff
open most likely halfshaft or sheared cv joint

If no drie in difflock, another option is clutch disintegrated, mine went
with one helluva bang, but stunk of clutch....

More serious options then become gearbox or transfer box prolems

--
Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Vice Chairman, Newsletter Editor and Webmaster (how
much more....)
3.5V8 100" Hybrid, now LPG converted
Part owner of 1976 S3 LWT, currently under restoration
Suzuki SJ410 (Girlfriend's) 3" lift kit fitted, body
shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery (the Pug 106 is dead, long live the Pug)

Peterborough 4x4 Club http://www.peterborough4x4.co.uk



 
On or around Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:36:25 GMT, "Ian Hamilton"
<snoozy.757@virgin.net> enlightened us thusly:

>Cheers alex, tried the difflock and still no drive, this is serious isn't
>it?


sounds a lot like the gearbox output shaft splines have given up the ghost.

your potions include hunting a second-hand box (but it's bit of a lottery if
it's a good 'un, unless you know the donor vehicle)

you can instead rebuild your box or have it rebuilt, or get the pros to
rebuild etc.

as someone else said, make sure you get the "cross-drilled transfer gear",
since otherwise the wear starts again.

It could be summat else, of course, but this is far the most likely as it's
the biggest known cause of death in these things.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.
 
Looking like it is the gearbox, just to let you all know.
"Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:yoZFc.540$Oh4.249@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> Defender 90 owner
> Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
> there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
> causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
>
>


 
Cheers alex, tried the difflock and still no drive, this is serious isn't
it?
"Alex" <nospam.alex@cbmsys.co.uk> wrote in message
news:urmge0tm5gnh3o2ggtc5uuqoalviejrm5h@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:03:42 GMT, "Ian Hamilton"
> <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> >Defender 90 owner
> >Whilst pulling away from a roundabout all of a sudden i heard a bang and
> >there was no drive in any of the gears, does anyone know of any possible
> >causes for this?Thanks in advance Ian.
> >
>
> I'd say you've broken a halfshaft. Engage the difflock and see if it
> will go. If so then you're going to have to get busy underneath.
>
> Alex


 
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