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rollin danny

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Netto have got a small welder in for £35.oo.Has anyone got one or similar.Not sure of spec.Is it worth getting one for small jobs or would I be better paying more for higher spec.Im new to welding but willing to start small.
 
rollin danny said:
Netto have got a small welder in for £35.oo.Has anyone got one or similar.Not sure of spec.Is it worth getting one for small jobs or would I be better paying more for higher spec.Im new to welding but willing to start small.
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Dunno what this one's like but it's absolutely certain to be crap. You would be much better of paying for a decent machine it'll save you a load of stress.
 
you sure its netto, there **** all on there website and i dunt remember seeing one in there
 
Yep there in Stockport Netto this morning, they had seven of em.I looked on website and couldn't find anything about em.
 
For £35 and youre new to welding forget it, you will struggle like mad and you will end up with bird sh1t all over the place and no weld im presuming its a mig youre afta if you wanting to weld motors if its a stick wlder (arc) forget it anyway you will blow holes in anything but thick crossmembers etc, you want a mig with at least a pub gas (co2) size bottle none of this diddy little bottle crud or gasless ones either its been a while but co2 is easy to come by once ya have a bottle, argon is a much much better gas to weld with but you hafta pay for bottle rental, co2 works ok tho.

You also want a good visor too prefereably a reactorlight one thats seethrough and darkens when you strike the arc much easier for a newbie welder and will save you either going blind or some seriously painfull arc eye, imho welding aint easy especially on motors with paper thin metal, welding a bit of clean sheet steel is easy but welding rusty motors up aint if the metal aint clean it will pop and fart and if you turn up the welder to high you will just blow holes all over the place if you absolutely must do it yourself then find someone who will let ya have a go first and show yas what to do then if you get on with it get yerself a semi decent mig welder.

Just my penneths worth
 
tom got a power craft (cheapo Wolf tools) arc from Aldi, with the whole kit for 40 quid, and it's alright, welded up the 2nd hand bull bar we've got and a couple of other odd jobs that needed somethin strong.

there doing a Mig welder at the moment for around 80 i think.
 
I can stick and mig weld no problem at all, learnt on the farm then did one day at college a week doing it, college were impressed and wanted me to sign up to full time course, just couldn't be arsed, only problem I hav is setting up the welder in the first place, after that it's no problem...


but as for TIG welding - not a fookin hope.....
 
It's horses fer courses an any weldin int hard with a bit of practice. If yer can't afford owt else a 35quid welder will be betterer than not havin one. I got an hundred amp one from Asda twenny odd years ago an it's spot on fer the odd job. Why only today I needed to weld a bolt to a spanner to mek a special tool to tighten me steering box unions up an it did the job like a goodun. I have welded sheet tin with it but didn't mek a very good job of it but it was good enough.
 
Disco Moneypit said:
How come no-one seems to muse gas welders any more?

Shirly there easier for the novice to use?
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One reason is that the heat involved in gas welding is quite extreme and creates a lot of distortion when working with thinner materials and plate steel etc ........... where as with MIG, TIG and even ARC the heat produced is more localised ;)

First weld i ever did was with gas and getting the hang of it wasn't easy at all :rolleyes: ........ however ........ learning to weld with a gas set stood me in good sted for learning MIG etc :D
 
What sort of welder would I need to repair sills.Ive just noticed a big hole in mine behind the plastic trim below the rear passenger door.Is it a job a novice could tackle or best left to experts. ,
 
What sort of welder would I need to repair sills.Ive just noticed a big hole in mine behind the plastic trim below the rear passenger door.Is it a job a novice could tackle or best left to experts.
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You want a mig welder to repair sills forget arc or gas as to what one how much do you want to spend ? theres no reason why a novice couldnt do it other than setting yer car on fire or wasting a reel of wire and a bottle of gas and not to mention getting really frustrated cos its spitting and spattering all over the place because the metal aint clean other than that if youre determined go for it buy a welder and practice plus having welding done on motors aint cheap (i know i used to be an mot welder) unless you can find someone with decent rates or even better ... m8s rates :)
 
Thanks lads.The MOT not due till March I think I'll have to get em done then.Whats the going rate for a sill on one of these,or will it vary from job to job.Skint at the moment .No work on (builder).Only ones working are the Poles.If it gets any worse even they might go home :D .
 
I got a 190amp gas/gasless mig off ebay and I've only used it with gasless wire so far. It's welded my rear crossmember on no problems at all. And loads of other bits and bobs that I've made. Only problem I have is it starts at 60amp so it's no use for thin stuff.. Might have to buy a really cheap mig for welding thin stuff.

If you're thinking of getting a mig find out what it's minimum rating is. Everyone always goes on about Max amps. But if you're gonna be welding body panels etc. Make sure it will go low enough, that it won't be blowing holes everywhere.
 
There's another issue with small/cheap welders. They overheat and cut out. Weld for 2 mins, wait 20 for it to cool down, weld for two minutes, wait 20 for.....etc,etc. Takes forever to get anything done unless the job is very small.

Bought myself a gasless mig, fan cooled. Brilliant, admittedly it cost a couple of hundred but it's easy to use, does strong welds, (ok not as pretty as with gas but that might be just me), and there's no messing around with gas bottles. Wish I'd done it a lot sooner! :)
 
Sparks said:
There's another issue with small/cheap welders. They overheat and cut out. Weld for 2 mins, wait 20 for it to cool down, weld for two minutes, wait 20 for.....etc,etc. Takes forever to get anything done unless the job is very small.

Bought myself a gasless mig, fan cooled. Brilliant, admittedly it cost a couple of hundred but it's easy to use, does strong welds, (ok not as pretty as with gas but that might be just me), and there's no messing around with gas bottles. Wish I'd done it a lot sooner! :)
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Agree completely. Only problem is the price of a roll of gasless wire at £10+ for a tiny reel it gets fooking expensive if you've got a lot of welding to do.

Also cheap one is ok for thin stuff as it'll be working at minimum current I usually allow for cooling off time by preparing one area at a time. so patch one bit then clean next bit, cut patches etc etc. that way by the time you start welding again it's cooled down.
 
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