Well, it's been a while since I posted, but here I am again...

I bought myself an ex-RAF 90 a while back, now drive it about back home
in Scotland. But then I got into airsoft, and realised that if I wanted
to use the Landy in games it would damage the paint. So the obvious
solution is to get a second Landy.

The plan at the moment is to get an ex-military LHD 110, as cheap as I
can find, remove the doors, windscreen, roof and stuff, and kit it out
to look like a Wolf with the WMIK. I'll probably use it unmodified
in-game at first, modding as and when my budget can take it.

So, what's the best way to go about it? The plan at the moment is as
follows:

Get 110, presumably soft-top or hard-top with tailgate.
Get the local smithy to build me the rollcage, pintle mounts, sand
ladders and random accoutrements.
Apply multiple layers of mil-spec paint to protect... well, the paint.
Construct Lexan shields for the wing mirrors, lights and things.

"Stuff to bolt on" so far includes:
Searchlight-type thing
Spare wheel on side of roll cage
Jerry can holder
Stowage under floor
Radio boxes
Wolf-style radiator grille

Have I forgotten anything?

If anyone has any good pictures of the Wolf with WMIK, particularly
detail pictures, they'd be extremely appreciated; advice on cheap and/or
easy ways of doing things as well. Advice on possible sources would also
be appreciated - and does anyone know where to get British military
Landies in Sweden?

Oh, and what *is* behind that hatch on the side of the Wolf Landies?

Best bet is to look on EMLRA forum, several people on there with Walt
Wolves. Genuine Wolf parts are expensive but come up on fleabay
regularly. Add the special wing air intakes to your list. There are
huge differences between a Wolf and a standard 110.

The hatch on both sides is standard to all military 110s and is jerry
can stowage.

Sean
73FL74 101GS
1984 110 2.5NA
Medway Military Vehicle Group
www.mmvg.net

sean101ryan@hotmail.com wrote:
> Best bet is to look on EMLRA forum, several people on there with Walt
> Wolves. Genuine Wolf parts are expensive but come up on fleabay
> regularly. Add the special wing air intakes to your list. There are
> huge differences between a Wolf and a standard 110.
>
> The hatch on both sides is standard to all military 110s and is jerry
> can stowage.

Thanks!

(Air intakes... what will they think of next? ;-)

"Torak" <perry_awm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:SZv5g.10529$zc1.586@amstwist00...
> Well, it's been a while since I posted, but here I am again...
>
> I bought myself an ex-RAF 90 a while back, now drive it about back home in
> Scotland. But then I got into airsoft, and realised that if I wanted to
> use the Landy in games it would damage the paint. So the obvious solution
> is to get a second Landy.
>
> The plan at the moment is to get an ex-military LHD 110, as cheap as I can
> find, remove the doors, windscreen, roof and stuff, and kit it out to look
> like a Wolf with the WMIK. I'll probably use it unmodified in-game at
> first, modding as and when my budget can take it.
>
> So, what's the best way to go about it? The plan at the moment is as
> follows:
>
> Get 110, presumably soft-top or hard-top with tailgate.
> Get the local smithy to build me the rollcage, pintle mounts, sand ladders
> and random accoutrements.
> Apply multiple layers of mil-spec paint to protect... well, the paint.
> Construct Lexan shields for the wing mirrors, lights and things.
>
> "Stuff to bolt on" so far includes:
> Searchlight-type thing
> Spare wheel on side of roll cage
> Jerry can holder
> Stowage under floor
> Radio boxes
> Wolf-style radiator grille
>
> Have I forgotten anything?
>
> If anyone has any good pictures of the Wolf with WMIK, particularly detail
> pictures, they'd be extremely appreciated; advice on cheap and/or easy
> ways of doing things as well. Advice on possible sources would also be
> appreciated - and does anyone know where to get British military Landies
> in Sweden?
>
> Oh, and what *is* behind that hatch on the side of the Wolf Landies?

Shovel,pick, sand-ladders,military lights tirfor roll bar etc
http://www.anchorsupplies.com/accesspries.htm
and the piccys 90 http://www.anchorsupplies.com/wolf2.htm or 109
http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Pink_panther.htm
110 http://www.lrm.co.uk/archive/military/behindlines.html
Derek

Derek wrote:
> "Torak" <perry_awm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:SZv5g.10529$zc1.586@amstwist00...
>
>>Well, it's been a while since I posted, but here I am again...
>>
>>I bought myself an ex-RAF 90 a while back, now drive it about back home in
>>Scotland. But then I got into airsoft, and realised that if I wanted to
>>use the Landy in games it would damage the paint. So the obvious solution
>>is to get a second Landy.
>>
>>The plan at the moment is to get an ex-military LHD 110, as cheap as I can
>>find, remove the doors, windscreen, roof and stuff, and kit it out to look
>>like a Wolf with the WMIK. I'll probably use it unmodified in-game at
>>first, modding as and when my budget can take it.
>>
>>So, what's the best way to go about it? The plan at the moment is as
>>follows:
>>
>>Get 110, presumably soft-top or hard-top with tailgate.
>>Get the local smithy to build me the rollcage, pintle mounts, sand ladders
>>and random accoutrements.
>>Apply multiple layers of mil-spec paint to protect... well, the paint.
>>Construct Lexan shields for the wing mirrors, lights and things.
>>
>>"Stuff to bolt on" so far includes:
>>Searchlight-type thing
>>Spare wheel on side of roll cage
>>Jerry can holder
>>Stowage under floor
>>Radio boxes
>>Wolf-style radiator grille
>>
>>Have I forgotten anything?
>>
>>If anyone has any good pictures of the Wolf with WMIK, particularly detail
>>pictures, they'd be extremely appreciated; advice on cheap and/or easy
>>ways of doing things as well. Advice on possible sources would also be
>>appreciated - and does anyone know where to get British military Landies
>>in Sweden?
>>
>>Oh, and what *is* behind that hatch on the side of the Wolf Landies?
>
>
> Shovel,pick, sand-ladders,military lights tirfor roll bar etc
> http://www.anchorsupplies.com/accesspries.htm
> and the piccys 90 http://www.anchorsupplies.com/wolf2.htm or 109
> http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Pink_panther.htm
> 110 http://www.lrm.co.uk/archive/military/behindlines.html

Thanks!

"Torak" <perry_awm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:96S5g.10613$zc1.8305@amstwist00...
> Derek wrote:
>> "Torak" <perry_awm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:SZv5g.10529$zc1.586@amstwist00...
>>
>>>Well, it's been a while since I posted, but here I am again...
>>>
>>>I bought myself an ex-RAF 90 a while back, now drive it about back home
>>>in Scotland. But then I got into airsoft, and realised that if I wanted
>>>to use the Landy in games it would damage the paint. So the obvious
>>>solution is to get a second Landy.
>>>
>>>The plan at the moment is to get an ex-military LHD 110, as cheap as I
>>>can find, remove the doors, windscreen, roof and stuff, and kit it out to
>>>look like a Wolf with the WMIK. I'll probably use it unmodified in-game
>>>at first, modding as and when my budget can take it.
>>>
>>>So, what's the best way to go about it? The plan at the moment is as
>>>follows:
>>>
>>>Get 110, presumably soft-top or hard-top with tailgate.
>>>Get the local smithy to build me the rollcage, pintle mounts, sand
>>>ladders and random accoutrements.
>>>Apply multiple layers of mil-spec paint to protect... well, the paint.
>>>Construct Lexan shields for the wing mirrors, lights and things.
>>>
>>>"Stuff to bolt on" so far includes:
>>>Searchlight-type thing
>>>Spare wheel on side of roll cage
>>>Jerry can holder
>>>Stowage under floor
>>>Radio boxes
>>>Wolf-style radiator grille
>>>
>>>Have I forgotten anything?
>>>
>>>If anyone has any good pictures of the Wolf with WMIK, particularly
>>>detail pictures, they'd be extremely appreciated; advice on cheap and/or
>>>easy ways of doing things as well. Advice on possible sources would also
>>>be appreciated - and does anyone know where to get British military
>>>Landies in Sweden?
>>>
>>>Oh, and what *is* behind that hatch on the side of the Wolf Landies?
>>
>>
>> Shovel,pick, sand-ladders,military lights tirfor roll bar etc
>> http://www.anchorsupplies.com/accesspries.htm
>> and the piccys 90 http://www.anchorsupplies.com/wolf2.htm or 109
>> http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Pink_panther.htm
>> 110 http://www.lrm.co.uk/archive/military/behindlines.html
>
> Thanks!
NProbs you might want to take a look at the May copy of LRO there is a -
"what to look for in an ex military" along with some good photos article
inside I was reading through this lunchtime
Derek

Derek wrote:
> NProbs you might want to take a look at the May copy of LRO there is a -
> "what to look for in an ex military" along with some good photos article
> inside I was reading through this lunchtime

Yeah, spotted it in Tesco the other day. Couldn't have been better
timing, really.

By the way, is there any way of making the doors quick-detachable? I'd
like to be able to remove them easily when I get on-site, but still have
the proper doors when driving on-road.

>>>"Torak" <perry_awm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>Well, it's been a while since I posted, but here I am again...
>>>>
>>>>I bought myself an ex-RAF 90 a while back, now drive it about back home
>>>>in Scotland. But then I got into airsoft, and realised that if I wanted
>>>>to use the Landy in games it would damage the paint. So the obvious
>>>>solution is to get a second Landy.
>>>>
>>>>The plan at the moment is to get an ex-military LHD 110, as cheap as I
>>>>can find, remove the doors, windscreen, roof and stuff, and kit it out to
>>>>look like a Wolf with the WMIK. I'll probably use it unmodified in-game
>>>>at first, modding as and when my budget can take it.

Just thought of something else. The military Landies come with the 2.5
NA, right? (Assuming I don't find a genuine XD for thirty quid and a
packet of Golden Wonder) So how difficult and expensive would it be to
swap the 2.5 out for a decent TD engine, and which one should I then go for?

In message <krmeg.987$YI3.82@amstwist00>, Torak <perry_awm@hotmail.com>
writes
>>>>"Torak" <perry_awm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>Well, it's been a while since I posted, but here I am again...
>>>>>
>>>>>I bought myself an ex-RAF 90 a while back, now drive it about back
>>>>>home in Scotland. But then I got into airsoft, and realised that if
>>>>>I wanted to use the Landy in games it would damage the paint. So
>>>>>the obvious solution is to get a second Landy.
>>>>>
>>>>>The plan at the moment is to get an ex-military LHD 110, as cheap
>>>>>as I can find, remove the doors, windscreen, roof and stuff, and
>>>>>kit it out to look like a Wolf with the WMIK. I'll probably use it
>>>>>unmodified in-game at first, modding as and when my budget can take it.
>
>Just thought of something else. The military Landies come with the 2.5
>NA, right? (Assuming I don't find a genuine XD for thirty quid and a
>packet of Golden Wonder) So how difficult and expensive would it be to
>swap the 2.5 out for a decent TD engine, and which one should I then go
>for?
The 200Tdi is pretty straightforward swop (if has come out of a
Defender) and makes a hell of a difference to performance.
The disco ones have the turbo mounted differently.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

hugh wrote:
> In message <krmeg.987$YI3.82@amstwist00>, Torak <perry_awm@hotmail.com>
> writes
>
>>>>> "Torak" <perry_awm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, it's been a while since I posted, but here I am again...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought myself an ex-RAF 90 a while back, now drive it about back
>>>>>> home in Scotland. But then I got into airsoft, and realised that
>>>>>> if I wanted to use the Landy in games it would damage the paint.
>>>>>> So the obvious solution is to get a second Landy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The plan at the moment is to get an ex-military LHD 110, as cheap
>>>>>> as I can find, remove the doors, windscreen, roof and stuff, and
>>>>>> kit it out to look like a Wolf with the WMIK. I'll probably use it
>>>>>> unmodified in-game at first, modding as and when my budget can
>>>>>> take it.
>>
>>
>> Just thought of something else. The military Landies come with the 2.5
>> NA, right? (Assuming I don't find a genuine XD for thirty quid and a
>> packet of Golden Wonder) So how difficult and expensive would it be to
>> swap the 2.5 out for a decent TD engine, and which one should I then
>> go for?
>
> The 200Tdi is pretty straightforward swop (if has come out of a
> Defender) and makes a hell of a difference to performance.
> The disco ones have the turbo mounted differently.

Sounds like a plan. What's it like for reliability? How big a hole is
one likely to make in my wallet?

On or around Tue, 30 May 2006 01:26:33 +0100, Torak <perry_awm@hotmail.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>hugh wrote:
>> In message <krmeg.987$YI3.82@amstwist00>, Torak <perry_awm@hotmail.com>
>> writes
>>
>> The 200Tdi is pretty straightforward swop (if has come out of a
>> Defender) and makes a hell of a difference to performance.
>> The disco ones have the turbo mounted differently.
>
>Sounds like a plan. What's it like for reliability? How big a hole is
>one likely to make in my wallet?

200TDi is pretty good on reliability, but this is reflected in the price of
a decent on second hand. If looking at 'em with a view to buy, they should
fire up almost instantly without noticeable pre-heat, if it makes black
smoke on fire-up that's normal, if it makes blue or grey or white smoke when
running then reject it.

well-kept ones are good for 200,000 miles.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Once, when the secrets of science were the jealously guarded property of
a small priesthood, the common man had no hope of mastering their arcane
complexities. Years of study in musty classrooms were prerequisite to
obtaining even a dim, incoherent knowledge of science.
Today, all that has changed: a dim, incoherent knowledge of science is
available to anyone. - Tom Weller, Science Made Stupid, 1986

Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Tue, 30 May 2006 01:26:33 +0100, Torak <perry_awm@hotmail.com>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>
>>hugh wrote:
>>
>>>In message <krmeg.987$YI3.82@amstwist00>, Torak <perry_awm@hotmail.com>
>>>writes
>>>
>>>The 200Tdi is pretty straightforward swop (if has come out of a
>>>Defender) and makes a hell of a difference to performance.
>>>The disco ones have the turbo mounted differently.
>>
>>Sounds like a plan. What's it like for reliability? How big a hole is
>>one likely to make in my wallet?
>
>
> 200TDi is pretty good on reliability, but this is reflected in the price of
> a decent on second hand. If looking at 'em with a view to buy, they should
> fire up almost instantly without noticeable pre-heat, if it makes black
> smoke on fire-up that's normal, if it makes blue or grey or white smoke when
> running then reject it.
>
> well-kept ones are good for 200,000 miles.

Great - I'll have a chat with my friendly neighbourhood LR dealer then.