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CRS

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Hi

Just picking up my new land rover soon. When I say new I mean 01 model td5 defender. Ive already been hit recently with the theft of my tractor and other various pieces of machinery. I was wondering what you guys use to make sure they stay with you? Im guessing there is some sort of alarm on it aleady but is that enough?

Thanks
Chris
 
Not sure about defenders some sort of factory fit. Like any car really always better to have a bit more

I've got a 2000 Disco I've got one of them Full Disklocks, there's also the things you put on the pedals

I've been looking at one of them tracking systems,
 
CRS said:
Hi

Just picking up my new land rover soon. When I say new I mean 01 model td5 defender. Ive already been hit recently with the theft of my tractor and other various pieces of machinery. I was wondering what you guys use to make sure they stay with you? Im guessing there is some sort of alarm on it aleady but is that enough?

Thanks
Chris
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Similar to you I've just bought an '04 TD5 and deliberately kept a bit of money aside so I could make some security improvements straight away.

My Defender came with the factory fitted alarm/immobiliser but interestingly it isn't rated by Thatcham, which says a lot. I was then shown how to defeat the factory fitted alarm/immobilser in less than 30 seconds with just a small phillips screwdriver:mad:

So, I'm having a Thatcham rated alarm/immobiliser fitted this week.

I've already purchased a Clutch Claw and will be getting a disklock once I have settled on what size steering wheel I will fit (the standard item is too big for me).

I'm also looking at one of the cheaper tracking systems (c.£200), whilst whilst it won't provide remote monitoring from dedicated centre will allow tracking via the internet.

Unfortunately, my garage isn't big enough, so I also park the TD5 behind my wife's car. OK, they could drag that one out of the way, but they would need to be very determined.

In the end I will have spent about £750 on security, but it taken me months to find the right one for me and I don't want the hassle of it getting nicked.


Tazz
 
Tazz070299 said:
Similar to you I've just bought an '04 TD5 and deliberately kept a bit of money aside so I could make some security improvements straight away.

My Defender came with the factory fitted alarm/immobiliser but interestingly it isn't rated by Thatcham, which says a lot. I was then shown how to defeat the factory fitted alarm/immobilser in less than 30 seconds with just a small phillips screwdriver:mad:

So, I'm having a Thatcham rated alarm/immobiliser fitted this week.

I've already purchased a Clutch Claw and will be getting a disklock once I have settled on what size steering wheel I will fit (the standard item is too big for me).

I'm also looking at one of the cheaper tracking systems (c.£200), whilst whilst it won't provide remote monitoring from dedicated centre will allow tracking via the internet.

Unfortunately, my garage isn't big enough, so I also park the TD5 behind my wife's car. OK, they could drag that one out of the way, but they would need to be very determined.

In the end I will have spent about £750 on security, but it taken me months to find the right one for me and I don't want the hassle of it getting nicked.


Tazz
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alarm and immobiliser in less than 30 seconds on a td5? Or were you shown on an older vehicle?
 
Tazz070299 said:
Similar to you I've just bought an '04 TD5 and deliberately kept a bit of money aside so I could make some security improvements straight away.

My Defender came with the factory fitted alarm/immobiliser but interestingly it isn't rated by Thatcham, which says a lot. I was then shown how to defeat the factory fitted alarm/immobilser in less than 30 seconds with just a small phillips screwdriver:mad:

So, I'm having a Thatcham rated alarm/immobiliser fitted this week.

I've already purchased a Clutch Claw and will be getting a disklock once I have settled on what size steering wheel I will fit (the standard item is too big for me).

I'm also looking at one of the cheaper tracking systems (c.£200), whilst whilst it won't provide remote monitoring from dedicated centre will allow tracking via the internet.

Unfortunately, my garage isn't big enough, so I also park the TD5 behind my wife's car. OK, they could drag that one out of the way, but they would need to be very determined.

In the end I will have spent about £750 on security, but it taken me months to find the right one for me and I don't want the hassle of it getting nicked.


Tazz
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You want monitoring? To what end? Surely itis better that YOU get the message when some asswipe is trying to get into your car than some monitoring center...who will then call the police.... who may then call you if they are not too busy and on a coffee break.

Monitoring centres are all well and good in their place. But their place is really monitoring for Lone Worker or Intruder alarms. Experience shows that their effectiveness in preventing car theft is minimal.
 
Ok thanks for the tips. I think I will look into some sort of alarm system and the best steering lock I can get hold of.

Thanks
Chris
 
You all got it wrong ! do what iv done for years ,only buy a car or van thats such a bag of ****e that no self respecting car thief would be seen dead in it !!!!!!!!!
 
adymanchester said:
You all got it wrong ! do what iv done for years ,only buy a car or van thats such a bag of ****e that no self respecting car thief would be seen dead in it !!!!!!!!!
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I've picked up stolen skoda's (old type ones, pre-vw) and lada's so I guess that ****es on that bonfire.:rolleyes::p
 
Tother day police caught some lads trying to nick a old metro down the road from us,
if it aint bolted down it is likely to go for a walk and if its bolted down it will just take the bastids longer sadly
 
lazydog said:
Tother day police caught some lads trying to nick a old metro down the road from us,
if it aint bolted down it is likely to go for a walk and if its bolted down it will just take the bastids longer sadly
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there's always a way to get the bastids... takes imagination though!
 
ratty said:
alarm and immobiliser in less than 30 seconds on a td5? Or were you shown on an older vehicle?
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Sadly not, it was a 2005 model. It seems the method used is fairly well known in the security industry and is a result of a Land Rover design quirk, rather than a weakness in the system supplied. Obviously I won't say on here how it was done, but I was astounded.

It's probably why it is one of the few post '98 manufacturer-fitted systems which isn't rated by Thatcham.

Tazz
 
youre all completely off the mark what yer need to do is keep going to places like mcdonalds starbucks and kfc and just leave all the wrappers paper cups empty coke bottles and general takeaway rubbish in the footwells of the vehicle

ive tried and tested this method for the last 12 years now and never had a single one of my cars when full of rubbish either stolen or broke in

coz lets face it whose gonna nick a car theyre gonna

a ........have to clean out first

b .......need a tetanus jab for being in the fooker
 
Tazz070299 said:
Sadly not, it was a 2005 model. It seems the method used is fairly well known in the security industry and is a result of a Land Rover design quirk, rather than a weakness in the system supplied. Obviously I won't say on here how it was done, but I was astounded.

It's probably why it is one of the few post '98 manufacturer-fitted systems which isn't rated by Thatcham.

Tazz
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Did you watch them actually gain access to, silence the alarm and then start the vehicle or did they simply tell you how to do it and that it took only 30 seconds?

I would've said 2 minutes was closer to the mark.
 
ratty said:
Did you watch them actually gain access to, silence the alarm and then start the vehicle or did they simply tell you how to do it and that it took only 30 seconds?

I would've said 2 minutes was closer to the mark.
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The 30 seconds I mentioned was watching them defeat the alarm/immobiliser without triggering the alarm. They could have done it quicker had they been "equipped"

Tazz
 
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