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hi hope someone out there can help
i want to change the hand brake on my rangerover i was wondering if anyone
had installed a brake line lock kit with any sucsess

or any other ideas due to handbrake is totaly shot

thanks for looking


 

"jon" <offroaderjon@yahoodot com> wrote in message
news:40e49737$0$22309$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
> hi hope someone out there can help
> i want to change the hand brake on my rangerover i was wondering if anyone
> had installed a brake line lock kit with any sucsess
>
> or any other ideas due to handbrake is totaly shot
>
> thanks for looking
>
>

I sell plenty of line-lock valves to the motorsport world and they work
very well BUT if this is to be for road use you must have them on a seperate
hydraulic system to the footbrakes which makes it a major ( too much to be
worth it ) operation. The MOT states that the parking brake should be fully
independant of the braking system....
If you just want one as an extra ( very effective ) handbrake or if the MOT
does not effect you then I will happily sell you one!

David
LLAMA 4x4
www.llama4x4.co.uk



 



"David_LLAMA 4x4" <david@llama4x4.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:cc317d$bm8$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "jon" <offroaderjon@yahoodot com> wrote in message
> news:40e49737$0$22309$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
> > hi hope someone out there can help
> > i want to change the hand brake on my rangerover i was wondering if anyone
> > had installed a brake line lock kit with any sucsess
> >
> > or any other ideas due to handbrake is totaly shot
> >
> > thanks for looking
> >
> >
>
> I sell plenty of line-lock valves to the motorsport world and they work
> very well BUT if this is to be for road use you must have them on a seperate
> hydraulic system to the footbrakes which makes it a major ( too much to be
> worth it ) operation. The MOT states that the parking brake should be fully
> independant of the braking system....
> If you just want one as an extra ( very effective ) handbrake or if the MOT
> does not effect you then I will happily sell you one!
>
> David
> LLAMA 4x4
> www.llama4x4.co.uk


Sorry but hydraulic handbrakes are only permitted on
pre 1968 vehicles
so not on a Rangie I'm afraid
Unless is as an addition and not a replacement

Andy
--
SWB Series 2a ( dressed as a 3) "Bruce"
It's big it's mean it's really really green




 
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:12:07 +0100, "Andy.Smalley"
<Andy.Smalley@Bigfoot.Com> wrote:

>Sorry but hydraulic handbrakes are only permitted on
>pre 1968 vehicles
>so not on a Rangie I'm afraid
>Unless is as an addition and not a replacement

What does the MOT say about fiddle brakes?

 
thanks for the pointers

will have a chat with the mot guy

he'e freindly enough got a series 2 landy so there may be some joy :eek:)

cheers

jon



 



"Mother" <@ {mother} @@101fc.net> wrote in message news:mrkae0hosvfkuufng0uqr68mlv8vq2d91h@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:12:07 +0100, "Andy.Smalley"
> <Andy.Smalley@Bigfoot.Com> wrote:
>
> >Sorry but hydraulic handbrakes are only permitted on
> >pre 1968 vehicles
> >so not on a Rangie I'm afraid
> >Unless is as an addition and not a replacement
>
> What does the MOT say about fiddle brakes?
>
Do you mean in addition to a foot bake or instead?

Can't find any specific mention in the book about them
Unless they come under 'Hand operated brake control valves'
which "applies to all vehicles with a secondary brake operating
mechanism in addition or in place of the normal parking brake
lever"
In which case basically they must work and be in good condition
So it's probably down to the testers interpretation again

Andy

--
SWB Series 2a ( dressed as a 3) "Bruce"
It's big it's mean it's really really green


 
On Friday, in article
<mrkae0hosvfkuufng0uqr68mlv8vq2d91h@4ax.com>
@{mother}@@101fc.net "Mother" wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:12:07 +0100, "Andy.Smalley"
> <Andy.Smalley@Bigfoot.Com> wrote:
>
> >Sorry but hydraulic handbrakes are only permitted on
> >pre 1968 vehicles
> >so not on a Rangie I'm afraid
> >Unless is as an addition and not a replacement
>
> What does the MOT say about fiddle brakes?

Not legal for road use -- agricultural tractors have them, but you're
supposed to lock the pedals together before going on the road. And they
don't come under an MOT anyway.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"History shows that the Singularity started when Sir Tim Berners-Lee
was bitten by a radioactive spider."
 
Mother wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:12:07 +0100, "Andy.Smalley"
> <Andy.Smalley@Bigfoot.Com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry but hydraulic handbrakes are only permitted on
>> pre 1968 vehicles
>> so not on a Rangie I'm afraid
>> Unless is as an addition and not a replacement
>
> What does the MOT say about fiddle brakes?

Nothing, AFAICS. Tiggrr passed with 'em fitted, and given the length of the
levers they are bloody obvious. Theye weren't even tested, so "if it's
fitted it must work" doesn't apply. I couldn't see any reference to them in
the tester's manual when I was getting the trialler road legal, so I guess
the rules that apply to the plastic hippo on the roof apply to fiddles too.
Not in the scope of the legislation. ;-)


--

Rich
Tiggrr - V8 trialler
RR 4.6HSE

"Her name was Mia
From North Korea
I said come over
Bring your Land Rover"


 
> > hi hope someone out there can help
> > i want to change the hand brake on my rangerover i was wondering if
anyone
> > had installed a brake line lock kit with any sucsess
> >
> > or any other ideas due to handbrake is totaly shot
> >
> > thanks for looking
> >
> >
>
> I sell plenty of line-lock valves to the motorsport world and they work
> very well BUT if this is to be for road use you must have them on a
seperate
> hydraulic system to the footbrakes which makes it a major ( too much to
be
> worth it ) operation. The MOT states that the parking brake should be
fully
> independant of the braking system....
>
the MOT states that you cannot have a hydraulic handbrake at all, whether or
not it is a separate system.


 

"jon" <offroaderjon@yahoodot com> wrote in message
news:40e49737$0$22309$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
> hi hope someone out there can help
> i want to change the hand brake on my rangerover i was wondering if anyone
> had installed a brake line lock kit with any sucsess
>
> or any other ideas due to handbrake is totaly shot
>
> thanks for looking
>
>

How about a small self-adjusting mechanically operated disc brake in place
of the handbrake drum?
small diameter disc in where the drum usually is, with a caliper to the
side.
it'd be lighter, unlikely to get clobbered when offroading and easier to
service.
Dunno if anyone makes 'em, just an idea...

Tom


 
On or around Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:20:59 +0100, "Tom Gilmour" <tom@nospam.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>"jon" <offroaderjon@yahoodot com> wrote in message
>news:40e49737$0$22309$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>> hi hope someone out there can help
>> i want to change the hand brake on my rangerover i was wondering if anyone
>> had installed a brake line lock kit with any sucsess
>>
>> or any other ideas due to handbrake is totaly shot
>>
>> thanks for looking
>>
>>
>
>How about a small self-adjusting mechanically operated disc brake in place
>of the handbrake drum?
>small diameter disc in where the drum usually is, with a caliper to the
>side.
>it'd be lighter, unlikely to get clobbered when offroading and easier to
>service.
>Dunno if anyone makes 'em, just an idea...
>

If you clobber the handbrake when off-roading, you're doing something
extra-specially esoteric, it's up in between the chassis rails.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Remember that to change your mind and follow him who sets you right
is to be none the less free than you were before."
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (121-180), from Meditations, VIII.16
 
On or around Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:20:59 +0100, "Tom Gilmour" <tom@nospam.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>"jon" <offroaderjon@yahoodot com> wrote in message
>news:40e49737$0$22309$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>> hi hope someone out there can help
>> i want to change the hand brake on my rangerover i was wondering if anyone
>> had installed a brake line lock kit with any sucsess
>>
>> or any other ideas due to handbrake is totaly shot
>>
>> thanks for looking
>>
>>
>
>How about a small self-adjusting mechanically operated disc brake in place
>of the handbrake drum?
>small diameter disc in where the drum usually is, with a caliper to the
>side.
>it'd be lighter, unlikely to get clobbered when offroading and easier to
>service.
>Dunno if anyone makes 'em, just an idea...
>

If you clobber the handbrake when off-roading, you're doing something
extra-specially esoteric, it's up in between the chassis rails.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Remember that to change your mind and follow him who sets you right
is to be none the less free than you were before."
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (121-180), from Meditations, VIII.16
 
On or around Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:20:59 +0100, "Tom Gilmour" <tom@nospam.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>"jon" <offroaderjon@yahoodot com> wrote in message
>news:40e49737$0$22309$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>> hi hope someone out there can help
>> i want to change the hand brake on my rangerover i was wondering if anyone
>> had installed a brake line lock kit with any sucsess
>>
>> or any other ideas due to handbrake is totaly shot
>>
>> thanks for looking
>>
>>
>
>How about a small self-adjusting mechanically operated disc brake in place
>of the handbrake drum?
>small diameter disc in where the drum usually is, with a caliper to the
>side.
>it'd be lighter, unlikely to get clobbered when offroading and easier to
>service.
>Dunno if anyone makes 'em, just an idea...
>

If you clobber the handbrake when off-roading, you're doing something
extra-specially esoteric, it's up in between the chassis rails.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Remember that to change your mind and follow him who sets you right
is to be none the less free than you were before."
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (121-180), from Meditations, VIII.16
 
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