Hi-ya sunking 101, okay thanks, as Clive said, it was tight but it did come out. By the time i`d finished, probably half of my workmates had been involved in some capacity, either offering genuine advice and help, or in some(well most) cases taking the mick! Horrible people. Hope the good one`s are around when it`s time to put it all back together. Just replacing a few seals, gaskets and the release bearing while it`s out but I don`t think the boss likes me doing it in works time. Skinflint. Cheers, Pete.