swge1 said:

hi,
Can anyboby tell me who manufacturers MTF 94 or does anyone know where i can get some in co.antrim northern ireland
or is there any other better alternative i can use in my 2001 td5

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MartinK said:

The Land Rover part codes are:

STC 9157 for 5 litre - £28 = £5.50 per ltr
STC 9158 for 1 litre

I have found that you may be easier just nipping down your local LR dealer and buying it there - it's around £28 for the 5 litre... With a 5 litre can you can just about get 2 oil changes for a R380 box... I bought 5 litres and changed the oil a while back and there seemed to be around half left over. Just managed to change it again this time (but I bought a spare 1 litre bottle just in case there wasn't enough, but there was!)...

Have a search on the web for the two STC codes to check prices, then call your local LR dealer... bet you find it's easier just dropping by and buying the "real" item from the LR dealer...

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blackvulcan100 said:

Just seen your comments on gear box oil. Do you have to have use this type of oil in the gear box because when I had mine changed I am sure the garage did not use this type of oil.

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thebiglad said:

Like all things mechanical they have to be lubricated and some lubes are better than others.

Most garages will use ATF in manual gearboxes as that is what Land-Rover USED to recommend, but not anymore.

For an R380 gearbox the recommended oil is MTF94 (being formulated to operate the synchros correctly), but it is not the BEST oil.

I would suggest that the best oil I know off is the fully synthetic oil from www.difflock.com and is called EVO1. Yes it is expensive by comparison to ATF, but atf is really just rubbish for a manual gearbox.

They also do EVO2 which is again a fully synthetic and is used in the transfer box and axles.

When I put these oils in my wife's Disco, the improvement in performance NVH (Noise vibration and harshness) was noticeable. Her mpg was 36 daily and over 40 on a run so I would maintain these oils had reduced frictional losses in the drive-train.

Not connected with Difflock other than as a happy customer.

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thebiglad said:

Like all things mechanical they have to be lubricated and some lubes are better than others.

Most garages will use ATF in manual gearboxes as that is what Land-Rover USED to recommend, but not anymore.

For an R380 gearbox the recommended oil is MTF94 (being formulated to operate the synchros correctly), but it is not the BEST oil.

I would suggest that the best oil I know off is the fully synthetic oil from www.difflock.com and is called EVO1. Yes it is expensive by comparison to ATF, but atf is really just rubbish for a manual gearbox.

They also do EVO2 which is again a fully synthetic and is used in the transfer box and axles.

When I put these oils in my wife's Disco, the improvement in performance NVH (Noise vibration and harshness) was noticeable. Her mpg was 36 daily and over 40 on a run so I would maintain these oils had reduced frictional losses in the drive-train.

Not connected with Difflock other than as a happy customer.

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swge1 said:

Only reason i'm going to change oil is that the gear stick becomes quite tight and sticky on a long run with no gear changes (i.e. motorway) but frees up again after a few shifts between gears.

So do u reckon this evo1 is worthwhile and will it solve my problem

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thebiglad said:

I think there is a chance it will, but the TD5 R380 combo has a known issue for getting difficult after a long motorway run, as you say.

I can't remember exactly what the cure is but I believe it has something to do with a nylon or plastic collar/ball which is part of the selector mechanism. I believe it is a cheap parts job if you can do the work yourself.

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