hi every one, just me self an 04 for a steal, well its got a little problem, it wont start when its hot, theres nothink when u turn it over, no click from the starter, new one fitted, all dash lights on, leave it for 10 mins it starts, like somethink needs to cool down then it starts, any advice, thanks.
thanks for your reply, don't think its the key switch as it starts ok even after a short run, only when av done a good few mile it wont start again for 10 mins,
sat in asda today wud not start, then it started, drove a hundred yards to get petrol, turned of got me petrol, wud not start again for 10 mins, felt a prat sitting there,
its just had a new starter, were is the relay coz av got another v6 I can take it of and try it, thanks.
sat in asda today wud not start, then it started, drove a hundred yards to get petrol, turned of got me petrol, wud not start again for 10 mins, felt a prat sitting there,
its just had a new starter, were is the relay coz av got another v6 I can take it of and try it, thanks.
no theres nothink, its not like when ya battery is dead u get the click from the starter moter, theres just nothink when u turn the key, ten mins later it starts, its just had a new starter moter.
l try that 2mrw and give it a run then stop it and c wot appens, its like somethink has to cool down b4 it will start again, av got a 51 reg aswell a so I can swop bits, that 1 suffers from boiling water loss, front head is white inside, oil goes creamey after a few weeks, steam comes out of breather pipe, just done the heads on that car and I think got a crack in front head, but I still love the v6, am getting the 04 gassed, me 51 is gassed.
Tempus Fugit
Well-Known Member
Starter solenoid perhaps?
tried swapping the relays, still no joy, the digie clock goes out when I turn the key when it wont start, the clock comes back when I return the key, that's the only light that goes dim, dash lights don't, its like some think is draining the power, then it comes back, last night sat in maccies aving a coffie for 15 mins, went to start it and nothink, 10 mins with the ignition on and then it started, tonight left the inanition on and it started after 15 mins, I will try holding the key when it stops again, cheers for that, going to take the moter of at the week end and check earths.
no its a new moter, only just got the car of a lady owner who put a gallon of oil in when the oil light came on, the break down told her the turbo had gone coz the smoke was bad, the recovery who done the starter a week b4 sed the engine was hydrolicing, so she put it up for sale, and guess wot the engine is fine, am driving it, droped the oil and filter and all is well, the cruse control rod keeps sticking when u put ya foot down that's scary, that's an easy fix. thanks any way.
B34R
Active Member
So you're in a situation where the starter solenoid isn't clicking?
Have you put a voltmeter on the feed to the starter motor? Check to see if you get +12V to the START terminal?
Have you tried jumping +12V directly onto the solenoid start terminal?
Some times the solenoid actuator arm can jam, and it'll stop the starter from getting +12 - even on "reconditioned" or "new" starters.
If all else fails you could try using a jump lead to connect the motor terminal to +12V but this will make a hell of a bang.
Also, I thought there were two relays in the starter line, one for the start and one for the immobiliser, or is it just immobiliser?
Have you put a voltmeter on the feed to the starter motor? Check to see if you get +12V to the START terminal?
Have you tried jumping +12V directly onto the solenoid start terminal?
Some times the solenoid actuator arm can jam, and it'll stop the starter from getting +12 - even on "reconditioned" or "new" starters.
If all else fails you could try using a jump lead to connect the motor terminal to +12V but this will make a hell of a bang.
Also, I thought there were two relays in the starter line, one for the start and one for the immobiliser, or is it just immobiliser?
Nodge68
Well-Known Member
There are some muppets about.
The cruise is an easy fix. Take a look at the vacuum motor on the throttle body. I expect that the control linkage locking cup has come adrift, jamming the throttle open. I've seen that a couple of times. It's scary when you plant the throttle for a quick getaway, only to have it remain at full throttle even after the pedal is released!!
Your fault does sound like a faulty ignition switch between. I'd take the column cowling off and "hot wire" the starter at the switch between the thick brown and red/white wire. This will prove the system and possibly condemn the switch
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The turbo had gone? Are you sure it's a V6?
If you say it starts fine when cold but not when hot, I had the same thing on my V6. A new camshaft position sensor cured it. A BMW one was compatible and much cheaper on eBay.
More details: https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/kv6-freelander-warm-starting-problems.288937/
More details: https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/kv6-freelander-warm-starting-problems.288937/
hi there, thanks for your reply, well its been in the auto sparks and they say all is well, I/e starter moter, relays, ignition switch, when it was with them it was behaveing itself so they cud not check the ignition wireing, wot I have found out is when the engine gets hot it wont start again till it gets to a certain temperature then it will start, av notice the fans come on after a mile or two and stay on, the temp never goes above normal, going to c if the temp switch is putting the fans on, the brains may be thinking its to hot to restart the engine, as I say its starts when the temp drops , no good when your going for petrol, stuck on the for court for ages, any advice most helpful, thanks ken.
hi there, throttle body were the cable is from the foot pedal is was thick with grease, clean it up, that's ok now, av had it in the sparks , it was behaveing itself, they checked the relays and starter moter, they took the cowl of and all is ok, they sed bring it back when it wont start, ya ok I will push it in, starts fine from cold but when it warms up it wont restart most of the time, wot av noticed is after a mile or two the fans come on and the temp is normal, u av to wait for the temp to drop a bit then it will restart, tried the ignition switch of me other landy, waited for a none start then tried it and nothink, going to swop me cam senser over and may b get another temp senser, thanks for your reply.There are some muppets about.
The cruise is an easy fix. Take a look at the vacuum motor on the throttle body. I expect that the control linkage locking cup has come adrift, jamming the throttle open. I've seen that a couple of times. It's scary when you plant the throttle for a quick getaway, only to have it remain at full throttle even after the pedal is released!!
Your fault does sound like a faulty ignition switch between. I'd take the column cowling off and "hot wire" the starter at the switch between the thick brown and red/white wire. This will prove the system and possibly condemn the switch
hi nodge68, took the cam senser out today, a bit dirty, oily, it turns over when it was out but wont start, no supprise there, refiited it and it started, tonight it wud not start after being out in it, left it for 15 mins wud not start, checked the brown wire, power there, checked the pink and white wire when turned to start, power there, power at the main red starter cable, just went to check the solenoid wire and it started, then there was no lights front and back, blue the 40amp fuse under the bonnet, swaped that with the main beam fuse all was ok, runs like a bag of sh--e, po302 and po304 r playing up now, on checking the fuse board up under the bonnet, put me light tester on the battery earth, then in the fuse board were the big black and red wires come in, checked the red wire it litt up,checked the black earth wire and it litt up with me tester on the battery earth, any advise on that 1, all along u have been saying bad earth, may b the fuse board is goosed, thanks nodge.
hi nodge, further to this reply, no power at the starter solenoid when its playing up, relay was making a click when turning the ignition, fuse board earth is normal, checked this out on me other v6, also took the cam relay senser of me other v6, waited for it to play up then swoped it over, at first it started then later it was playing up again, so I no its not the cam senser, were does the pick and white wire go to, the starter relay in the fuse board or the solenoid, coz when it playing up I can check the other end for power, when it plays up its like u have it in gear and when u try to start it theres nothink, that's wot it does when in park or nutrual, then wait for 15 to 30 mins then it will start, its like the engine needs to cool down to a certain temp b4 it will start again,
