Ed_1969

Ed_1969

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Im considering a 2011 or newer FL2 diesel Auto that is euro 5. I am new to the FL2 so please correct me if my assumptions are wrong. I love auto's even though they are heavier on fuel.

I'm assuming the euro5 cars have the dpf and they have also better mpg. The euro5 cars started at late 2010 (60) however i have seen a few 60 plates with Euro 4 and less mpg figures. When i looked at older threads regarding mpg figures, people were quoting figures from 08 cars and 2012 cars, they are not like for like. On autotrader sd4 and td4 cars are much the same mpg.

So can we have the real world mpg figures for euro5 cars please, can you kindly quote the year and whether your car is td4 or sd4, also it must have auto box too. ;)
 
Dunno if my 2010 TD4 is Euro 5, VinDecoderz.com says "Emission Directives - EU4 [053BM]", so I presume not... but it is an auto.

The dash stubbornly tells me my avg fuel consumption (because it s not fuel economy!) is 11.3L/100km - that's 25mpg.

The driving I do in it isn't conducive to good ecconomy though, mainly short dstance suburban stuff from cold.
 
Ed_1969 said:
Im considering a 2011 or newer FL2 diesel Auto that is euro 5. I am new to the FL2 so please correct me if my assumptions are wrong. I love auto's even though they are heavier on fuel.

I'm assuming the euro5 cars have the dpf and they have also better mpg. The euro5 cars started at late 2010 (60) however i have seen a few 60 plates with Euro 4 and less mpg figures. When i looked at older threads regarding mpg figures, people were quoting figures from 08 cars and 2012 cars, they are not like for like. On autotrader sd4 and td4 cars are much the same mpg.

So can we have the real world mpg figures for euro5 cars please, can you kindly quote the year and whether your car is td4 or sd4, also it must have auto box too. ;)
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I wouldn’t get too hung up about it - the difference between a manual and auto will be very small if everything else is like for like, and could be won back or lost inside 30 minutes of different driving styles and/or road speeds.

Ballpark;
On a steady 65mph run, you’ll get into low 40’s.
Increase to 75mph, you’ll be high 30’s.
Round towns, if you are not too heavy-footed, low-mid 30’s.
Like Grumpy said - very easy to also get to mid 20’s.
Remember, these cars are used for a very wide range of driving conditions, road surfaces, and driving styles.

If you trying to get to mpg detail beyond that, perhaps look at a smaller car?
 
Freddie17 said:
I wouldn’t get too hung up about it - the difference between a manual and auto will be very small if everything else is like for like, and could be won back or lost inside 30 minutes of different driving styles and/or road speeds.

Ballpark;
On a steady 65mph run, you’ll get into low 40’s.
Increase to 75mph, you’ll be high 30’s.
Round towns, if you are not too heavy-footed, low-mid 30’s.
Like Grumpy said - very easy to also get to mid 20’s.
Remember, these cars are used for a very wide range of driving conditions, road surfaces, and driving styles.

If you trying to get to mpg detail beyond that, perhaps look at a smaller car?
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I think there is a low chance of getting low 30's round town, and not a cat in hell's chance of getting mid 30's.

I'm going by the dash display though. When figures are that poor, you don't really want confirmation by doing the sums. :rolleyes:

I do get low 30's out of my manual L Series F1 round town. Not much point in driving 'spiritedly' in that though, I'm not sure it would go any quicker, just make more noise clatter, a lot of smoke and still be beaten off the lights by 18 wheelers.
 
I had mine on 33 just the other day - and I purposely reset it as I’d just refuelled in town. Took a slow plod home (the long way, just enjoying the drive).
Mind you, I was driving ‘carefully’, between 1 and 2k revs only. One or two spirited light get-aways, and that would soon drop!

And yes - only ever going by the dash display - which is just an electronic calculation.

My F1 is mid 20’s round town. Low-mid 30’s on a steady run.

But, nobody buys a Land Rover for their fuel economy!
 
Ed_1969 said:
Im considering a 2011 or newer FL2 diesel Auto that is euro 5. I am new to the FL2 so please correct me if my assumptions are wrong. I love auto's even though they are heavier on fuel.

I'm assuming the euro5 cars have the dpf and they have also better mpg. The euro5 cars started at late 2010 (60) however i have seen a few 60 plates with Euro 4 and less mpg figures. When i looked at older threads regarding mpg figures, people were quoting figures from 08 cars and 2012 cars, they are not like for like. On autotrader sd4 and td4 cars are much the same mpg.

So can we have the real world mpg figures for euro5 cars please, can you kindly quote the year and whether your car is td4 or sd4, also it must have auto box too. ;)
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There's not really any noticeable difference in MPG between Eu4 and Eu5 emissions standards. The addition of the DPF simply reduces the particulates in the exhaust gasses. This in theory will have a slight reduction in MPG compared to an Eu4, as the exhaust pressure is higher, but it's a small difference.
These vehicles aren't built to be efficient, but do a job for the owners.
I would suggest that if you're even remotely concerned about the fuel economy on a near 2 ton vehicle, then it's probably not the vehicle for you.
 
Guys im afraid its the same old waffle i have just read from you all. If the FL2 done 10MPG you would not buy one, nobody would, so for everybody there has to be a cut off point. I cant help but think 'that old chestnut when you say don't buy a landrover if you are worried about fuel economy. I had 2 range rovers and many cars with terrible economy. There is nothing wrong with adding a bit of common sense to your choice especially with the cost of living crisis.

The quoted figures show a difference between euro 4 and euro 5
the quoted figures show a difference between manual and automatic

it seems i am no further forward with your 5 replies of non help and old chestnuts lol. Im sorry for wasting everyone's time.
 
Ed_1969 said:
Guys im afraid its the same old waffle i have just read from you all. If the FL2 done 10MPG you would not buy one, nobody would, so for everybody there has to be a cut off point. I cant help but think 'that old chestnut when you say don't buy a landrover if you are worried about fuel economy. I had 2 range rovers and many cars with terrible economy. There is nothing wrong with adding a bit of common sense to your choice especially with the cost of living crisis.

The quoted figures show a difference between euro 4 and euro 5
the quoted figures show a difference between manual and automatic

it seems i am no further forward with your 5 replies of non help and old chestnuts lol. Im sorry for wasting everyone's time.
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Ok.
We don’t own a FL, but as TDV8 l322 owners I can tell you that between the 2 drivers the difference can be more than 1l/100klm, so driving style proves more difference.
A DPF fitted car will use more fuel To go through a regen unless it it’s kept clean because of the driving you do.

So you look at quoted figures and ask for “real world” which you have replies to reflect that. But now you don’t like answers from members?

Quoted figures are not “real world” driving, are they?

I have a car here that will easily get into into single digits mpg if I want too.

Make up your own mind.

J
 
My FL2 TD4 with 95,000 miles, averages 38 mpg which i think is good considering she's not a light lady and about as aerodynamic as a brick.
 
Spanky-spangler said:
My FL2 TD4 with 95,000 miles, averages 38 mpg which i think is good considering she's not a light lady and about as aerodynamic as a brick.
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That's very good.
Where the vehicle is driven a huge difference to MPG.
If I drove my FL2 to work and back, which is 3 mile each way, then it would show about 29 MPG on the GOM. However get it on a nice flat bit of motorway at a steady 65 MPH, and the MPG would climb to 45.
Ed_1969 said:
Guys im afraid its the same old waffle i have just read from you all. If the FL2 done 10MPG you would not buy one, nobody would, so for everybody there has to be a cut off point. I cant help but think 'that old chestnut when you say don't buy a landrover if you are worried about fuel economy. I had 2 range rovers and many cars with terrible economy. There is nothing wrong with adding a bit of common sense to your choice especially with the cost of living crisis.

The quoted figures show a difference between euro 4 and euro 5
the quoted figures show a difference between manual and automatic

it seems i am no further forward with your 5 replies of non help and old chestnuts lol. Im sorry for wasting everyone's time.
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In my experience, manufacturers figures are little better than make believe, so no point in going by them. For the record, a DPF failure will remove any potential fuel savings as replacement cost is high.
Keep it simple and buy a vehicle without a DPF. Auto vs manual, makes so little difference, it's not even worth trying to work out the difference, just chose what you'd rather drive.
Ed_1969 said:
I have unwatched this thread so dont waste your time with more waffle and old chestnuts.
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I don't understand why you're throwing your toys out the pram, when you were given sensible answers. You're the one trying to split hairs over a couple of MPG between models, then get all bent out of shape when the answer doesn't suit.
Genuinely, if you're bothered about a couple of MPG between models, then you have to think is the Freelander a vehicle to consider.
 
Just for clarity, I live in east anglia where the roads are kinda flat.😄

I drove to the land Rover show few weeks ago and it was even better.
 
Sd4
residentual 30 to 40mph i get 24mpg.
Cruise at 60mph i get about 36mpg.
At 30mph for 15 miles constant i get 53mph.
 
Hippo said:
Sd4
residentual 30 to 40mph i get 24mpg.
Cruise at 60mph i get about 36mpg.
At 30mph for 15 miles constant i get 53mph.
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So a bit worse than my TD4 manual, especially at 60, where mine did manage to achieve 45 MPG on a 285 mile journey, according to the dash.
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