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Arnodafe72

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Hi guys ! Yeah, issue maybe you can help me with - bought a set of original old Freelander 1 rims secondhand for my 2995 Freelander 1 Facelift. However, the rims hit the brake calipers which go over the brake discs on the front. (The back wheels have brake drums, so no calipers.) What should i do - get spacers ? Which size would one recommend, or should i forget it altogether, yours greatfully, arnodafe72 cheers ! 🍷😏
 
As above. The offset of post 2001 rims was changed to accommodate the larger brakes fitted to the later models.
As suggested, it's best to get the correct rims. A 5mm spacer should move the rims out enough to clear the brakes, but the studs aren't really long enough to allow correct engagement of the nuts, so longer studs are needed.
It's far better to save all the messing about, and simply buy the correct rims to suit the age of the vehicle.
 
Nodge68 said:
As above. The offset of post 2001 rims was changed to accommodate the larger brakes fitted to the later models.
As suggested, it's best to get the correct rims. A 5mm spacer should move the rims out enough to clear the brakes, but the studs aren't really long enough to allow correct engagement of the nuts, so longer studs are needed.
It's far better to save all the messing about, and simply buy the correct rims to suit the age of the vehicle.
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Thanks again @Nodge68 - yeah, just picked up 5mm spacers from the tire shop. They said anything bigger than 5mm you have to change the studs......is it absolute that the studs aren't adequate ? Regards, as always, arnodafe72 🍷😏
 
Arnodafe72 said:
Thanks again @Nodge68 - yeah, just picked up 5mm spacers from the tire shop. They said anything bigger than 5mm you have to change the studs......is it absolute that the studs aren't adequate ? Regards, as always, arnodafe72 🍷😏
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I had 5mm spacers for the same issue but wasn't happy with them and replaced the rims.
With the way tyre fitters and mechanics hammer in the wheel nuts you need every mm of thread to keep you and your family safe.
The other issue with spacers is it means the centre hub is not seated correctly so adds even more pressure on the studs.
 
Alibro said:
I had 5mm spacers for the same issue but wasn't happy with them and replaced the rims.
With the way tyre fitters and mechanics hammer in the wheel nuts you need every mm of thread to keep you and your family safe.
The other issue with spacers is it means the centre hub is not seated correctly so adds even more pressure on the studs.
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Ok, cheers man ! Makes you wonder why anyone uses them.....
 
Arnodafe72 said:
Thanks again @Nodge68 - yeah, just picked up 5mm spacers from the tire shop. They said anything bigger than 5mm you have to change the studs......is it absolute that the studs aren't adequate ? Regards, as always, arnodafe72 🍷😏
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On an M12 X 1.5 thread, it needs 15mm of thread engagement to achieve maximum clamping load capacity. You'll find that with spacers, you probably have about 12mm of thread engagement, which isn't really enough.
 
Nodge68 said:
On an M12 X 1.5 thread, it needs 15mm of thread engagement to achieve maximum clamping load capacity. You'll find that with spacers, you probably have about 12mm of thread engagement, which isn't really enough.
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Just so its clear - i have 215/65R16 on my Freelander - does that change things @Nodge68 ? Would love to have two sets of rims for both summer and winter tires but they don't exist round here where i am at the arctic circle, to het hold off secondhand. Don't think this makes a difference but thought i would add it - thanks again ! 🍷😏
Nodge68 said:
On an M12 X 1.5 thread, it needs 15mm of thread engagement to achieve maximum clamping load capacity. You'll find that with spacers, you probably have about 12mm of thread engagement, which isn't really enough.
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Arnodafe72 said:
Just so its clear - i have 215/65R16 on my Freelander - does that change things @Nodge68 ? Would love to have two sets of rims for both summer and winter tires but they don't exist round here where i am at the arctic circle, to het hold off secondhand. Don't think this makes a difference but thought i would add it - thanks again ! 🍷😏
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That's pretty much the standard size for a Freelander 1, as it was fitted to most models.
The 15" steel wheels from the base model fitted with winter tyres are a good choice, as there are generally more tyres available in 15", compared to 16".
Although 15" steels might also be harder to find, you can also use early Honda CRV rims, which just happen to fit the FL1.
 
Nodge68 said:
That's pretty much the standard size for a Freelander 1, as it was fitted to most models.
The 15" steel wheels from the base model fitted with winter tyres are a good choice, as there are generally more tyres available in 15", compared to 16".
Although 15" steels might also be harder to find, you can also use early Honda CRV rims, which just happen to fit the FL1.
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Yeah, in winter i use Honda CRV rims that are 205/70R15 - thanks again @Nodge68 have a good weekend 🍷 😏
 
Went through a similar issue a while back. A mate of mine was selling his 2003 3-door as spares & repair, but the rims were in better condition than my wife's 2005 Facelift. Found the 2003 had 15" rims & wife's has 16". The smaller alloys definitely do not fit the later facelift !!
 
pwood999 said:
Went through a similar issue a while back. A mate of mine was selling his 2003 3-door as spares & repair, but the rims were in better condition than my wife's 2005 Facelift. Found the 2003 had 15" rims & wife's has 16". The smaller alloys definitely do not fit the later facelift !!
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I use 15" rims for my einter tires which were for an Honda CRV (205/70R15) as i didn't have a second set of freelander rims with the Facelift which are 16" (215/65R16). I need a second set for winter studded tires. The Freelander set i bought as a second set are 16" with the same tire dimension (215/65R16) but are from pre 2000 and don't clear the upgraded brakes they introduced post 2000 - as i found out. Just have to stick with my Honda CRV 15" for now. 🍷😏
 
pwood999 said:
Went through a similar issue a while back. A mate of mine was selling his 2003 3-door as spares & repair, but the rims were in better condition than my wife's 2005 Facelift. Found the 2003 had 15" rims & wife's has 16". The smaller alloys definitely do not fit the later facelift !!
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I thought they did.

Its not the diameter that is the issue.
 
pwood999 said:
Went through a similar issue a while back. A mate of mine was selling his 2003 3-door as spares & repair, but the rims were in better condition than my wife's 2005 Facelift. Found the 2003 had 15" rims & wife's has 16". The smaller alloys definitely do not fit the later facelift !!
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15" steel rims were available after 2001 to fit the later brakes. They were fitted as spare wheels to iE models with 15" alloys, and all round to "E" base models, and the commercial. They're pretty rare, but we're definitely available
 
pwood999 said:
Went through a similar issue a while back. A mate of mine was selling his 2003 3-door as spares & repair, but the rims were in better condition than my wife's 2005 Facelift. Found the 2003 had 15" rims & wife's has 16". The smaller alloys definitely do not fit the later facelift !!
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The cars up to 2000 had 5 spoke 15" rims and they won't fit later cars.

From 2000 they had 6 spoke 15" rims and they should fit any car post 2000.

Count the spokes, it should tell you if they fit or not.
 
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