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Neil

Guest

• Jun 20, 2004

• #1

The rear door on my 95 Disco will not open on the central lock. The manual
internal lock feels soft like there is an overcenter device that has failed.
Also the electrical actuator move up and down freely but again there is no
interlock apparent. I have the manual but this is no help in understanding
what is wrong and it give very little in formation. Can anyone tell me
what device causes the positive click when the lock is operated. I am
looking for a broken overcenter spring mechanism but can't find anything
fits. Its also really difficult to inspect the system when installed. Any
guidance much appreciated
Neil

 

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Dave White

Guest

• Jun 20, 2004

• #2

In <cb470r$r1$1@sparta.btinternet.com> Neil wrote:
> The rear door on my 95 Disco will not open on the central lock. The
> manual internal lock feels soft like there is an overcenter device
> that has failed. Also the electrical actuator move up and down freely
> but again there is no interlock apparent. I have the manual but this
> is no help in understanding what is wrong and it give very little in
> formation. Can anyone tell me what device causes the positive click
> when the lock is operated. I am looking for a broken overcenter
> spring mechanism but can't find anything fits. Its also really
> difficult to inspect the system when installed. Any guidance much
> appreciated Neil

Make sure that the outside handle is fully returned. The mechanism has a
tendency to seize due to corrosion. You open the door but when you shut
it the latch doesn't fully disengage, preventing you from opening the
door again.

To open the door you need to push the handle back fully then operate it
as you would normally. A good spray with WD40 followed by spray on
grease will solve it. You can get to the handle mechanism from the
outside. Remove the Land Rover badge for access.

cheers

Dave W.
http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/

 

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Neil

Guest

• Jun 20, 2004

• #3

Thanks for the response Dave
Yes I have gone down this roadand the handle function is well lubricated.
The problem seems to be something to do with lock system. I thought it was
the solenoid at first but then found that to be OK. I can not figure out
what part of the mechanism cause the clunk when ever the lock is operated.
(Still looking for the spring that goes overcenter)
Thanks
"Dave White" <davew_nospamhere@yorkshireoffroadclub.net> wrote in message
news:20040620164937111+0100@news.demon.co.uk...
> In <cb470r$r1$1@sparta.btinternet.com> Neil wrote:
> > The rear door on my 95 Disco will not open on the central lock. The
> > manual internal lock feels soft like there is an overcenter device
> > that has failed. Also the electrical actuator move up and down freely
> > but again there is no interlock apparent. I have the manual but this
> > is no help in understanding what is wrong and it give very little in
> > formation. Can anyone tell me what device causes the positive click
> > when the lock is operated. I am looking for a broken overcenter
> > spring mechanism but can't find anything fits. Its also really
> > difficult to inspect the system when installed. Any guidance much
> > appreciated Neil
>
> Make sure that the outside handle is fully returned. The mechanism has a
> tendency to seize due to corrosion. You open the door but when you shut
> it the latch doesn't fully disengage, preventing you from opening the
> door again.
>
> To open the door you need to push the handle back fully then operate it
> as you would normally. A good spray with WD40 followed by spray on
> grease will solve it. You can get to the handle mechanism from the
> outside. Remove the Land Rover badge for access.
>
> cheers
>
> Dave W.
> http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/

 

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Andrew Renshaw

Guest

• Jun 21, 2004

• #4

Ohhhh Neil,

It is bound to be the circular spring in the lock. The symptoms are classic.
Lubrication is one issue, however, the other issue is the crosshead screws
that Land Rover use for the lock mechanism, it is impossible to fully
tighten them. The screws work lose over a period of time and then weaken the
spring.

The bad news is that it is a new full lock mechanism and it is £50. Fairly
easy job to change once you have dismantled the door but a pain for a 10
pence spring.

A


"Neil" <jnwj@nothanksbtinternet.com> wrote in message
news:cb470r$r1$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> The rear door on my 95 Disco will not open on the central lock. The
manual
> internal lock feels soft like there is an overcenter device that has
failed.
> Also the electrical actuator move up and down freely but again there is no
> interlock apparent. I have the manual but this is no help in
understanding
> what is wrong and it give very little in formation. Can anyone tell me
> what device causes the positive click when the lock is operated. I am
> looking for a broken overcenter spring mechanism but can't find anything
> fits. Its also really difficult to inspect the system when installed.
Any
> guidance much appreciated
> Neil
>
>

 

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Neil

Guest

• Jun 21, 2004

• #5

Andrew
Thanks for the info. Where is the spring located? Is it in the unit that
forms the lock mechanism attaced to the door where the overcenter cams are
located. Or is in inside the electrical actuator, whould it help if I put
a drawing of the system on the internet?
Thanks
Neil

"Andrew Renshaw" <andrew.hart.i hate spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:UywBc.19$Mj3.15@newsfe2-win...
> Ohhhh Neil,
>
> It is bound to be the circular spring in the lock. The symptoms are
classic.
> Lubrication is one issue, however, the other issue is the crosshead screws
> that Land Rover use for the lock mechanism, it is impossible to fully
> tighten them. The screws work lose over a period of time and then weaken
the
> spring.
>
> The bad news is that it is a new full lock mechanism and it is £50. Fairly
> easy job to change once you have dismantled the door but a pain for a 10
> pence spring.
>
> A
>
>
> "Neil" <jnwj@nothanksbtinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:cb470r$r1$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > The rear door on my 95 Disco will not open on the central lock. The
> manual
> > internal lock feels soft like there is an overcenter device that has
> failed.
> > Also the electrical actuator move up and down freely but again there is
no
> > interlock apparent. I have the manual but this is no help in
> understanding
> > what is wrong and it give very little in formation. Can anyone tell me
> > what device causes the positive click when the lock is operated. I am
> > looking for a broken overcenter spring mechanism but can't find anything
> > fits. Its also really difficult to inspect the system when installed.
> Any
> > guidance much appreciated
> > Neil
> >
> >
>
>

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jun 21, 2004

• #6

On or around Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:59:25 +0100, "Andrew Renshaw"
<andrew.hart.i hate spam@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Ohhhh Neil,
>
>It is bound to be the circular spring in the lock. The symptoms are classic.
>Lubrication is one issue, however, the other issue is the crosshead screws
>that Land Rover use for the lock mechanism, it is impossible to fully
>tighten them. The screws work lose over a period of time and then weaken the
>spring.

can't they be loctited?

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

 

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Andrew Renshaw

Guest

• Jun 21, 2004

• #7

It is in the lock mechanism and it is impossible to buy the spring.

It looks at first as though it is on the actuator but it certainly isn't.

Put loctite on the screws when you replace the lock and replace them with
slotted stainless steel, much easier than the crossheaded ones.

Andrew


"Neil" <jnwj@nothanksbtinternet.com> wrote in message
news:cb650o$h8n$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
> Andrew
> Thanks for the info. Where is the spring located? Is it in the unit that
> forms the lock mechanism attaced to the door where the overcenter cams are
> located. Or is in inside the electrical actuator, whould it help if I
put
> a drawing of the system on the internet?
> Thanks
> Neil
>
> "Andrew Renshaw" <andrew.hart.i hate spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:UywBc.19$Mj3.15@newsfe2-win...
> > Ohhhh Neil,
> >
> > It is bound to be the circular spring in the lock. The symptoms are
> classic.
> > Lubrication is one issue, however, the other issue is the crosshead
screws
> > that Land Rover use for the lock mechanism, it is impossible to fully
> > tighten them. The screws work lose over a period of time and then weaken
> the
> > spring.
> >
> > The bad news is that it is a new full lock mechanism and it is £50.
Fairly
> > easy job to change once you have dismantled the door but a pain for a 10
> > pence spring.
> >
> > A
> >
> >
> > "Neil" <jnwj@nothanksbtinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:cb470r$r1$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > > The rear door on my 95 Disco will not open on the central lock. The
> > manual
> > > internal lock feels soft like there is an overcenter device that has
> > failed.
> > > Also the electrical actuator move up and down freely but again there
is
> no
> > > interlock apparent. I have the manual but this is no help in
> > understanding
> > > what is wrong and it give very little in formation. Can anyone tell
me
> > > what device causes the positive click when the lock is operated. I am
> > > looking for a broken overcenter spring mechanism but can't find
anything
> > > fits. Its also really difficult to inspect the system when
installed.
> > Any
> > > guidance much appreciated
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

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NJF

Guest

• Jun 21, 2004

• #8

Neil wrote:

>The rear door on my 95 Disco will not open on the central lock. The manual
>internal lock feels soft like there is an overcenter device that has failed.
>Also the electrical actuator move up and down freely but again there is no
>interlock apparent. I have the manual but this is no help in understanding
>what is wrong and it give very little in formation. Can anyone tell me
>what device causes the positive click when the lock is operated. I am
>looking for a broken overcenter spring mechanism but can't find anything
>fits. Its also really difficult to inspect the system when installed. Any
>guidance much appreciated
>Neil
>
>
>
I'd leave it well alone, get the keys out every time and when your
stopped at lights the little thieving bastards can't nick anything.....
Especially if your travel abroad!

Niel.

 

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sv61

Guest

• Jun 21, 2004

• #9

"Andrew Renshaw" <andrew.hart.i hate spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in
news:k_ABc.271$4F6.58@newsfe6-gui.server.ntli.net:

>> > "Neil" <jnwj@nothanksbtinternet.com> wrote in message
>> > news:cb470r$r1$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
>> > > The rear door on my 95 Disco will not open on the central lock.
>> > > The
>> > manual
>> > > internal lock feels soft like there is an overcenter device that
>> > > has
>> > failed.
>> > > Also the electrical actuator move up and down freely but again
>> > > there
> is
>> no
>> > > interlock apparent. I have the manual but this is no help in
>> > understanding
>> > > what is wrong and it give very little in formation. Can anyone
>> > > tell
> me
>> > > what device causes the positive click when the lock is operated.
>> > > I am looking for a broken overcenter spring mechanism but can't
>> > > find
> anything
>> > > fits. Its also really difficult to inspect the system when
Help me guys !

I have noise with my disco 300 TDI, it's not clear but sometimes after
parking my car, i try to go, the starter run but the motor not run.
Otherwise the car run but after 10 second to start turn off .
So i try to restart after six or seven time car run.
It's all ok but sometimes appears this proble
I suppose there is a problem with
-The block of the key
-alarm equipment
-pump

or other
but the èproblem is not to clear so it's impossible to solve it, some3one
help me?

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