ukadamwest
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I love datatek's dead pan !
tomcat59alan
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Please don't encourage people to bastardise their P38's.I though this might be of use to anyone who doesn't want to pay for air suspension bypass module.
kurtjohnson10
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shame on you , why would you want a P38 without eas !!!!!!
jamesmartin
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but useful for expeditions
Datatek
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Why? springs break too.
jamesmartin
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they do but it doesnt usually involve one or more corners dropping
Datatek
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I've experienced busted coils in Africa, can be a real PITA. Air will often get you out of trouble so the trade off in needing to carry a few relativley small spares seems a good one to me.
jamesmartin
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pita isnt as bad as stuck on bumb stops, a boot full of air bags
plumbfisher
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I seem to have picked up a hint that the predominant feeling here is that perhaps coils are not entirely well thought of?
There were coils on mine when I got it. The compressor and valve block are still in place. With a view to putting it back on bags I've tried to get more info from the dealers who did the conversion, how and why it was done. 'Numerous faults that would have cost too much to trace' is all I can get.
A 'how to convert back from coils' guide would be much appreciated ...:biggrin1:
There were coils on mine when I got it. The compressor and valve block are still in place. With a view to putting it back on bags I've tried to get more info from the dealers who did the conversion, how and why it was done. 'Numerous faults that would have cost too much to trace' is all I can get.
A 'how to convert back from coils' guide would be much appreciated ...:biggrin1:
Datatek
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If the conpressor and valve block is there, it's likely the height sensors will also be there, so it's just a case of putting the airbags on in place of the coils, removing the mod, whichever one has been used, to disable the EAS, then using diagnostics (I can supply) to check it out. Wammers guide in the "How To" section will tell you how the check the compressor and there you will also find my airbag replacement guide.I seem to have picked up a hint that the predominant feeling here is that perhaps coils are not entirely well thought of?
There were coils on mine when I got it. The compressor and valve block are still in place. With a view to putting it back on bags I've tried to get more info from the dealers who did the conversion, how and why it was done. 'Numerous faults that would have cost too much to trace' is all I can get.
A 'how to convert back from coils' guide would be much appreciated ...:biggrin1:
Fixing the EAS rarely costs much cash, just needs time. If you canot DIY it can be very expensive as most garages do not understand the system.
tomcat59alan
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An air bag cannot snap, the broken spring can rip the tyre and cause loss of steering. I know to my cost, happened twice on the X type. Sh1t springs and even worse road surfaces in this area (all the money is spent in Liverpool, but that is another rant
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jamesmartin
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An air bag cannot snap, the broken spring can rip the tyre and cause loss of steering. I know to my cost, happened twice on the X type. Sh1t springs and even worse road surfaces in this area (all the money is spent in Liverpool, but that is another rant
anything however unlikely can happen ,but your air system is much more likely to fail than 4 coils, its a pity they didnt go for a hydropneumatic system were body roll and adjustment under braking could have been controlled rather than just slow up/down
plumbfisher
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If the conpressor and valve block is there, it's likely the height sensors will also be there, so it's just a case of putting the airbags on in place of the coils, removing the mod, whichever one has been used, to disable the EAS, then using diagnostics (I can supply) to check it out. Wammers guide in the "How To" section will tell you how the check the compressor and there you will also find my airbag replacement guide.
Fixing the EAS rarely costs much cash, just needs time. If you canot DIY it can be very expensive as most garages do not understand the system.
The height sensors are there too - tho' they've been pretty heavily waxoyled!
That's what I was trying to find out - what mod was used.
You won't be too surprised to hear that it was a main dealer did it. Ah well - at least they left all the bits in! I think this sounds like another good reason for me to get the nanocom that I've been thinking about.
Thanks for pointing me towards the 'how to's. I'll check it out.
The height sensors are there too - tho' they've been pretty heavily waxoyled!
That's what I was trying to find out - what mod was used.
I think this sounds like another good reason for me to get the nanocom that I've been thinking about.
Thanks for pointing me towards the 'how to's. I'll check it out.
A main dealer doing that is in my opinion an admission of gross ineptitude on his part. EAS is a simple system repairing it should be no problem at all. With his charging rate and the price of the conversion i will bet it cost close to a grand to get fitted. There is not an EAS system on the planet that cannot be repaired for a third of that. And maybe a lot less.
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tomcat59alan
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The height sensors are there too - tho' they've been pretty heavily waxoyled!
That's what I was trying to find out - what mod was used.
I think this sounds like another good reason for me to get the nanocom that I've been thinking about.
Thanks for pointing me towards the 'how to's. I'll check it out.
Good man, sounds like you have found most of the bits, look for the air storage tank and the plastic pipes and you should be able to reverse the main stealers bodge.
StuckAgainSteve
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It's always puzzled me why Citroën's wonderful oleopneumatic suspension system didn't make it to a 4x4. I'd buy a DS5 tomorrow if it had that suspension.
