Alteredtech
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Hi,
You can start by replacing the master cylinder, if no luck, you need the get gearbox out.
You can start by replacing the master cylinder, if no luck, you need the get gearbox out.
Cyrus 200
Active Member
Cheers miktdish; that was my next question what clutch will it have
2 piece or 3 piece dual mass
Cyrus 200
Active Member
Master cylinder is empty and i can't find any trace of fluid on the clutch pedal or anywhere else so I'm presuming the slave cylinder has packed in and the fluid is in the bell housing
A 3 piece 'dual mass' you say ..... who told you that exists ?
You can buy a 3 piece 'kit' comprising, clutch cover, slave cylinder and pressure plate.
Flywheel Td4 Frl 2.0L Diesel
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Or you will find several sellers offering a Single Mass flywheel and Clutch Kit.
Overall this is less cost that a dual mass flywheel kit.
However, that is not to say it's 'better' it's just 'cheaper'.
Cyrus 200
Active Member
A 3 piece 'dual mass' you say ..... who told you that exists ?
You can buy a 3 piece 'kit' comprising, clutch cover, slave cylinder and pressure plate.
Flywheel Td4 Frl 2.0L Diesel
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Or you will find several sellers offering a Single Mass flywheel and Clutch Kit.
Overall this is less cost that a dual mass flywheel kit.
However, that is not to say it's 'better' it's just 'cheaper'.
So mine will definitely be dual mass do I need flywheel change aswell
From post #3 ..
It's likely worth replacing the clutch and flywheel at the same time, my advice is to stay with a Dual Mass.
Or let me put it another, It may not be neccesary to change the clutch and flywheel at the same time but as you are taking the gearbox out, it is probably worthwhile given the work needed to get to/change just the slave cylinder.
Dual mass flywheels offer a cleaner transmission of power into the gearbox than a single mass which overall makes the car 'smoother' to dive.
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Cyrus 200
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Best get some quotes then, I seen a video on here once about a mobile clutch fitter but now cant for the life of me find it
A 3 piece 'dual mass' you say ..... who told you that exists ?
You can buy a 3 piece 'kit' comprising, clutch cover, slave cylinder and pressure plate.
Flywheel Td4 Frl 2.0L Diesel
STC4561 - Britpart, Allmakes and Land Rover options for STC4561 Flywheel Td4 Frl 2.0L Diesel - EXPRESS Shipping - UK, EU and Worldwide.
Or you will find several sellers offering a Single Mass flywheel and Clutch Kit.
Overall this is less cost that a dual mass flywheel kit.
However, that is not to say it's 'better' it's just 'cheaper'.
Paywall
Cyrus 200
Active Member
What's that
Means I don't want to have take out a membership to a news site for an opinion I only wish to peruse ...
Alteredtech
Well-Known Member
Why changing the dual mass flywheel ?
Depending on the mileage you can leave it there. The point is not getting the clutch out for changing the DMF. The clutch slave will certaily fails again before you need a new DMF, so leave it there.
DMF are changed with the clutch in some cars because the clutch plate is known to badly damage the DMF …
Depending on the mileage you can leave it there. The point is not getting the clutch out for changing the DMF. The clutch slave will certaily fails again before you need a new DMF, so leave it there.
DMF are changed with the clutch in some cars because the clutch plate is known to badly damage the DMF …
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Cyrus 200
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I was hoping I didn't have to change the flywheel but some people I have spoken too say change flywheel aswell I've just been quoted £450 for a 3 piece clutch kit fitted but then I will still need new master cylinder I'm presuming because mine is totally empty not 100% sure if I can refill the old one once its been opened
andyfreelandy
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Before spending any money, locate the bleed valve in the hydraulic line near the gearbox end.
Open valve and pour new fluid into master cylinder. Bleed system and see how long it lasts.
Look for external leaks before condemning the clutch slave and incurring £1k ish.
Open valve and pour new fluid into master cylinder. Bleed system and see how long it lasts.
Look for external leaks before condemning the clutch slave and incurring £1k ish.
Cyrus 200
Active Member
Thanks andy
I will give that a go
Alteredtech
Well-Known Member
What did you call a 3 piece clutch kit ?
DMF is alone almost £600 if you buy it yourself.
TD4 engine comes with a DMF for a reason, don't put a single mass flywheel in any case.
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Alteredtech
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Master cylinder empty ? Is there still any fluid on the master ? If you have 1 inch of fluid is barely enough.
You can buy a bottle of Dot4, refill the master, 1 inch from the top, if it leaks from somewhere, you will see it.
You will certainly be able to move the car after that, but not for long time, then ask a garage to bleed the system.
If the master has internal leak you can't bleed the system.
If the slave is leaking, you will see brake fluid comming from one hole under the gearbox.
You can buy a bottle of Dot4, refill the master, 1 inch from the top, if it leaks from somewhere, you will see it.
You will certainly be able to move the car after that, but not for long time, then ask a garage to bleed the system.
If the master has internal leak you can't bleed the system.
If the slave is leaking, you will see brake fluid comming from one hole under the gearbox.
