micknkazzyfonce said:

a new one is required £200+.

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micknkazzyfonce said:

The workshop manager said the ECU for the locking system would have to be replaced if it won't accept any key's other than the originals.

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sierrafery said:

that doesnt sound OK for me.... IMO it's boll*x

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gstuart said:

Think There’s a limit on how many keys can be re programmed into the ecu , think it’s something like 14 ,

Ur new key should reprogram fine and think the manager is trying to charge u for a new ecu as well

Once keys have been programmed to an ecu they can’t be re programmed to another vehicle

I got a new key off ebay for £50 , got the blank cut for £10 and then programmed it myself using a gap iid so if u have an original key that’s already been programmed to ur landy u don’t have to go to a dealer

Ps, the locking system for a D4 is built into the passengers fuse box

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gstuart said:

Think There’s a limit on how many keys can be re programmed into the ecu , think it’s something like 14 ,

Ur new key should reprogram fine and think the manager is trying to charge u for a new ecu as well

Once keys have been programmed to an ecu they can’t be re programmed to another vehicle

I got a new key off ebay for £50 , got the blank cut for £10 and then programmed it myself using a gap iid so if u have an original key that’s already been programmed to ur landy u don’t have to go to a dealer

Ps, the locking system for a D4 is built into the passengers fuse box

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gstuart said:

Think There’s a limit on how many keys can be re programmed into the ecu , think it’s something like 14 ,

Ur new key should reprogram fine and think the manager is trying to charge u for a new ecu as well

Once keys have been programmed to an ecu they can’t be re programmed to another vehicle

I got a new key off ebay for £50 , got the blank cut for £10 and then programmed it myself using a gap iid so if u have an original key that’s already been programmed to ur landy u don’t have to go to a dealer

Ps, the locking system for a D4 is built into the passengers fuse box

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gstuart said:

Think There’s a limit on how many keys can be re programmed into the ecu , think it’s something like 14 ,

Ur new key should reprogram fine and think the manager is trying to charge u for a new ecu as well

Once keys have been programmed to an ecu they can’t be re programmed to another vehicle

I got a new key off ebay for £50 , got the blank cut for £10 and then programmed it myself using a gap iid so if u have an original key that’s already been programmed to ur landy u don’t have to go to a dealer

Ps, the locking system for a D4 is built into the passengers fuse box

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micknkazzyfonce said:

Many thanks for the great reply, the manager has ordered a replacement ECU as he said "if we don't need it we won't fit it" as I wrote earlier apparently there are ecu's that will not accept any keys once the original has been deleted. I am always sceptical but without the knowledge or equipment your knackered, and the replacement key & programming etc has already cost £240 inc vat. I actually thought the ecu was behind a door panel. I will give your video clip a good looking at. We get home from a break tomorrow and into the garage Friday first thing..................I just hate the idea of being screwed over.

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gstuart said:

Ur very welcome

Have also been doing some more digging myself and wished to update something I’ve just found out

D3 keys can’t be reprogrammed , D4 keys can be reprogrammed

Also finding out the limit of the ecu to see how many keys it will accept to programmed into it, if there is 100% a limit

It may indeed be in a different place on the D4

Will let u know when I start finding out some more info for u , so then at least ur know when u see the manager again

Plus urs is the keyless entry isn’t it with the 8 x speed rotary dial plse

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micknkazzyfonce said:

I cannot say how much I appreciate the help and advice you provide. I am so sceptical these days, with all the rip off's you hear / read about. It is a local firm (Independent Dealership) and he sounded genuine enough, the key is from Landrover and I guess the cut one will be as well, ker-ching. My car is as you say the 8 x speed rotary dial.
Enjoyed the video and thought the app looked good..............but of course its only for people who really need / use it, the pro version being £500 per year, I'll give that a miss I think ........

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gstuart said:

No probs , ur find this forum extremely helpful along with a huge amount of information

The gap iid that can be used on ur landy costs around £420 , can be had for £300 second hand , u can get a non Bluetooth version but a pain having to use just the cars screen, Bluetooth version works via ur iPad / iPhone

Will update u as and when I find more info out for u

Plus assume u have a faraday bag for u key , u can disable it if so req

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/turning-off-keyless-entry.325670/

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micknkazzyfonce said:

Good morning gstuart. Feel obliged to update you, went to the indi yesterday, the keys were accepted by the car, so that was a relief. In the time we were chatting the workshop manager came across as Very knowledgeable; I mentioned the garage that installed my tow bar were "waiting" for a LR update to silence the reversing sensors, he just told the guy working on my car to sort it out. That was it, handed the keys and nothing to pay as I payed for the key when ordering. Faith restored, and further to your earlier reply I will be buying 2 x faraday bags today.
Many thanks for you help, again,. Regards Mick

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