yu can also get castor corrected swivel balls!
choppa
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i find it hard to believe you got a 4 inch lift and you aint already got caster corrected arms .... that must drive like a barn ......
with that big a lift you got loads more to worry about aswell ...
RAZ8550TDI
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very suprised things havnt gone wrong already?????
choppa
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i dont think hes tellin the truth , no way would that drive proper with a 4 inch lift and nothin else ..... fer a kick off his steerin would be all to cock , and i doubt his props would reach .... i stupidly went 3 inch on mine and it cost me £1200 .....
a lesson i learned and will never do again ....
Mine's got 3 inch lift and 35 inch tyres (courtesy of its previous owner) and it drives like a dog on the road.
From what I can tell, the previous owner didn't do much with regards to correcting the suspension geometries but did fit a double cardon jointed prop on the front, albeit allowed it to get to the point where it was completely worn out. It also seems to have stressed the diff bearings where the propshaft joins and the transfer box too...
Thankfully, I only do 6 miles a day plus the occasional off road outing so it's not a major problem for me, except that I keep thinking about what new radius arms, trailing arms, etc I should buy to make it better and then hastily reconsider when I see the cost!
The tires also mess up the gearing so it struggles going uphill and the speedo reads way out. If I was doing more road miles, I'd seriously consider dropping down to a 2" and getting a second set of (smaller) tyres.
That said, it was pretty good off road at muddy bottom at the weekend, even with me being a complete amateur off road driver. Swings and roundabouts I suppose.
From what I can tell, the previous owner didn't do much with regards to correcting the suspension geometries but did fit a double cardon jointed prop on the front, albeit allowed it to get to the point where it was completely worn out. It also seems to have stressed the diff bearings where the propshaft joins and the transfer box too...
Thankfully, I only do 6 miles a day plus the occasional off road outing so it's not a major problem for me, except that I keep thinking about what new radius arms, trailing arms, etc I should buy to make it better and then hastily reconsider when I see the cost!
The tires also mess up the gearing so it struggles going uphill and the speedo reads way out. If I was doing more road miles, I'd seriously consider dropping down to a 2" and getting a second set of (smaller) tyres.
That said, it was pretty good off road at muddy bottom at the weekend, even with me being a complete amateur off road driver. Swings and roundabouts I suppose.
choppa
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the problem is people , and i include me , think that lifting it will some how improve their offroadin abilitys and believe me it wont . all it duz is make yer landrover look hard and you look stoopid .... the army managed without monster trucks so we should be fine ..... the only reason you would need a massive lift is for challenge events and that kind of stuff . and i for one aint anywhere near capable of getting a landrover to its limits ... and chuckin a set of +3 or +4 inch springs and shockers at it is only the begginin , its far more complicated than that ..... and the cost , ohh the cost ...
i'v stopped rantin now ....
From watching people (including myself) get stuck at the weekend, the prime reason seems to be the height of the tyres i.e. the tyres go into a rut and the diff casing hits the deck and you're beached. Difficult to go for much more than 35 inch tyres without fouling the suspension or arches I guess.
My view is that the lift would help when going over a steep sided hump or something like that I suppose as well as wading and I would guess that if done correctly, having the lift would give you more articulation - tyres in contact with the ground more therefore better grip although I suppose there might be more than just shocks and springs to be replaced to achieve max articulation.
My view is that the lift would help when going over a steep sided hump or something like that I suppose as well as wading and I would guess that if done correctly, having the lift would give you more articulation - tyres in contact with the ground more therefore better grip although I suppose there might be more than just shocks and springs to be replaced to achieve max articulation.
choppa
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liftin yer suspension dont lift yer diff .... thats fact , and liftin it so ya dont get wet seams a weak reason to me ... the fact is a normal landrover should be perfectly capable of taking normal people where ever they want to go within reason , it seams pointless to modify to that extent just so ya dont get yer ass wet or you can go over a steep bank . offcourse its not my concern what people do with thier own motor but from my experiance it aint worth it ...
and another quick point , i was told exactly this before i did mine and i did'nt listen .... it was a complete waste of money .... it created more problems than it solved ....
LRB2, I completely agree - my previous point was that the main reason I saw people getting stuck was because of the diff height and that is a function of the tyre size, not the suspension lift.
It certainly seemed that people with little or no lift were faring pretty much as well as the high-lifters and it was down to tyres and diff lockers who got how far and then your winch to get you out
Capability aside, you're right about the look though - the high lifters do look like they mean business!
It certainly seemed that people with little or no lift were faring pretty much as well as the high-lifters and it was down to tyres and diff lockers who got how far and then your winch to get you out
Capability aside, you're right about the look though - the high lifters do look like they mean business!
choppa
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LRB2, I completely agree - my previous point was that the main reason I saw people getting stuck was because of the diff height and that is a function of the tyre size, not the suspension lift.
It certainly seemed that people with little or no lift were faring pretty much as well as the high-lifters and it was down to tyres and diff lockers who got how far and then your winch to get you out
Capability aside, you're right about the look though - the high lifters do look like they mean business!
yeh thats the important bit , tyres , winch and maybe lockers , not to mention driver .... i fell fer the lifted look hook line and sinker and it cost me a fortune ..... not something i would do again ....
choppa
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I've put some images in the gallery - not sure how to post images directly to a thread...
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=20565
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=20565
choppa
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Thanks - glad to hear positive comments - most of my mates think I'm mad!
Damn thing's like a sponge for soaking up money.
There's more money to spend on pre-MOT tasks (before October):
- Replace rear crossmember (dirty rotten scoundrel)
- Replace left rear body mount (corrosion victim)
- Replace fuel tank (leaks diesel if over half full) and fit guard
- Re-weld rear diff-pan to axle seam (existing weld seems DIY and has corroded leaking about a teaspoon a day)
- Replace brake servo (losing vacuum under heavy braking)
Plus, there's lots of stuff I want to do plus I need a load of recovery kit.
- Modify exhaust to remove 2 of the boxes and to exit through left side of body (currently rubs on 35 inch tyres under articulation)
- Wading / breather extension kit (has snorkel but previous owner never bothered with the other breathers?!?)
- Fit a tachometer (still need to check if my alternator has a W terminal)
- Winch blanket, tree strops, jate rings, snatch block, kinetic tow rope
- Replace bushes (some are worn / hardening)
Where does it all end...
Damn thing's like a sponge for soaking up money.
There's more money to spend on pre-MOT tasks (before October):
- Replace rear crossmember (dirty rotten scoundrel)
- Replace left rear body mount (corrosion victim)
- Replace fuel tank (leaks diesel if over half full) and fit guard
- Re-weld rear diff-pan to axle seam (existing weld seems DIY and has corroded leaking about a teaspoon a day)
- Replace brake servo (losing vacuum under heavy braking)
Plus, there's lots of stuff I want to do plus I need a load of recovery kit.
- Modify exhaust to remove 2 of the boxes and to exit through left side of body (currently rubs on 35 inch tyres under articulation)
- Wading / breather extension kit (has snorkel but previous owner never bothered with the other breathers?!?)
- Fit a tachometer (still need to check if my alternator has a W terminal)
- Winch blanket, tree strops, jate rings, snatch block, kinetic tow rope
- Replace bushes (some are worn / hardening)
Where does it all end...
choppa
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