MJI
Well-Known Member
My mate borrowed my disco tonight came back with it on its back side ns bag is shot !!
Ive never had one fail until now, I think I'm just going to put springs on it.
Can anyone suggest a brand or kit that's up to the job.
Conti or Dunlop
brianconwy
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I used Britpart springs around £68 and have never noticed much different from airbags. They are both just springs - its the shock absorbers that smooth out the ride. Its great not having to worry about problems again.
Did you go for a standard ride height as someone had said it sat a tad low on the rear after they done it
Hellastony
Active Member
IMO the ride with air is much better, and many think the same. The bags are so easy to change, and should be done as a service item every 5 or 6 years.
Tony
Tony
This ^^^^ Keep the air, much better - also saves telling your insurance co about the modification
brian47
Well-Known Member
+1This ^^^^ Keep the air, much better - also saves telling your insurance co about the modification
With steel springs you lose more than you gain. The operative phrase is "Self Levelling" which means that no matter how much you put in the back (within reason), the suspension will level itself. You'll also lose the additional off-road lift of about 2 inches with just the press of a button on the dashboard. If you have the remote controller (plip) or the David Pye modification you're also able to lower the suspension to make loading or hitching a trailer easier.
tulipandthistle
Active Member
Bags are service items, they should be replaced every 5 years and more if you do off roading.
sierrafery
Well-Known Member
Short introduction in psychology(i have a degree in it): thinking it's no noticeable difference in ride between coils and SLS or classic ARBs and ACE = Cognitive dissonance & self justification ...
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brian47
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Yeah, wot he said!Short introduction in psychology(i have a degree in it): thinking it's no noticeable difference in ride between coils and SLS or classic ARBs and ACE = Cognitive dissonance & self justification
Er ..... what did he say?
neilly
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He said he has got an 'Ology....
My feelin' is that if Coil springs and non ACE was that bad then LR would not have sold them, So if an owner wants to change them then let them. They can always change it back if they find it is a terrible mistake and they do not like the way it rides.
Cheers
MJI
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brianconwy
Well-Known Member
Short introduction in psychology(i have a degree in it): thinking it's no noticeable difference in ride between coils and SLS or classic ARBs and ACE = Cognitive dissonance & self justification
I am not claiming springs are better just countering the almost religious obsession with keeping airbags. The only way to judge if the ride is better is by driving cars and not knowing which has which suspension. Without blind testing any opinions are likely to be biased.
brian47
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To be honest, Brian the same argument could be landed at the feet of those who advocate changing to steel springs at the slightest failing of an air bag.
brianconwy
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I didn't change 'at the slightest failing'. I changed after the bags and height sensors had been replaced and also the compressor had its piston ring replaced and also dessicant and air filter. it worked fine for a while until the compressor failed completely. I didn't want to throw another £300 at it. However much money is thrown at it, it will still be a fifteen year old heavy lump of a car.
