blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
Depends what you mean by off-road........after today I'm feeling a Series would definitely be better off-a-cliff 
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wiltshire landyman
I’m back
a series in the hands of an experienced driver will be better than a defender in the hands of a muppet
but a defender in the right hands imo will be better,me personally ive never taken to the series,sean the sheep always springs to my mind
thats my opinion but maybe not the opinion of others
but a defender in the right hands imo will be better,me personally ive never taken to the series,sean the sheep always springs to my mind
thats my opinion but maybe not the opinion of others
tombardier
Well-Known Member
why not 2.5NA? The complete lack of torque and power means you won't be spinning the wheels quite as easily in mud, and in the low ratio box, you're not going to struggle for power either
anyway, the 90/110/defender is superior technically in pretty much every way to the series!
anyway, the 90/110/defender is superior technically in pretty much every way to the series!
Oldseadog
Well-Known Member
For off road or trials I would ... and have pitted a standard 2 litre 86" Series I against Series II's, III's and early Fenders and finished better placed than most of them.
Bear in mind that the trials were about skill to get from A to B, and not about speed.
However Simmy's AWD Club was an out and out foot down organisation and we lost a lot of good drivers to them.
Give me an old, well shod Series, any day! If anyone's still up for a challenge sometime, and I can borrow one, let's try it out!
OSD
Bear in mind that the trials were about skill to get from A to B, and not about speed.
However Simmy's AWD Club was an out and out foot down organisation and we lost a lot of good drivers to them.
Give me an old, well shod Series, any day! If anyone's still up for a challenge sometime, and I can borrow one, let's try it out!
OSD
Oldseadog
Well-Known Member
If anyone can supply me with a Series for the day, you're on!I'll take you on in the V8 when it's ready
OSD
300bhp/ton
Well-Known Member
There is no real answer to this, not without first asking and answering some other questions:
What are the pros and cons of each?
1. For use at what off road?
2. Standard or modified, if the latter, how radical?
In short the Defender has more power, power steering, better steering lock, stronger axles and gearbox, more wheel travel, better flex and more suspension travel.
So in general a Defender will be more capable.
However, something like an 80" Series 1 has huge advantages on some terrain. It's a lot smaller in all measurements, so has a better breakover angle and is far more nimble. For trialling or use in tight confined terrain (forrest/woods) it's size is a real advantage.
It's also lighter, so arguably better on lose surfaces like sand.
Downsides are Series 1's aren't very powerful and the standard suspension has little travel, even compared to a Series II (front suspension).
If you allow mods, then a Series can be highly capable and lots of available options to improve them.
But it comes down to what you want to do with them. If you are rock crawling Moab style, then a 100" wheelbase Defender is likely a better bet than an 80" Series. The longer wheelbase will offer greater stability.
'91 Defender
New Member
Defender, purely because you will have a spine still at the end of the day. Coil springs ftw
Dr_evil
Banned
hammoj28
Active Member
Defender, purely because you will have a spine still at the end of the day. Coil springs ftw
Yep, driving across the rows on a stubble field in a series is painful to say the least.
Dr_evil
Banned
As I said the V8's are the same
more or less unless you've got a limited edition fender with a thor in it or some other weird incarnation of the buick blockNow the one thing I would say gives the fender a huge advantage is power steering as it makes life a lot easier when you get a little stuck
Spyderman
New Member
I didn't see you following me on Sunday mate.
