Evan farmer
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I suppose I'm barking up the wrong tree here but everyone seems to think that articulation is a good thing but correct me but all I see is one wheel hitting the wheel arch and not able to move
Btw. Unless the picture you are referring too is of a badly modified vehicle. Then no. I don't get the idea as the wheel most certainly should not be jammed.Can't upload pic but get the idea
ng as they stop upward travel?Btw. Unless the picture you are referring too is if a badly modified vehicle. Then no. I don't get the idea as the wheel most certainly should not be jammed.
So bump stops make my theory wrong as they stop upward travel?So bump stops are what makes my theory wrom
ng as they stop upward travel?
Nice landy so my theory is highly unlikely to happenBump stops can help when they stop one side lifting too far into the wheel well on one side because they add a small amount of leverage to the unweighted side that's dropping down. With longer articulation and downward travel, extended bump stops provide more pressure to help get the opposite wheel on the ground, especially if the springs also dislocate.
See the pics from when I was building the rear end of my '90. The drivers side is dislocating the spring, whilst the nearside is hardly stuffing into the wheel well, without the longer shocks, extended bump stops and 'better' trailing arms the drivers side wheel would be in mid air now. However, in this instance the nearside is NOT hitting the stops yet, there's a way to go for that to happen, but the wheel on the drivers side can still transmit some torque to the ground. The nearside wheel (both actually!) does stuff a lot further into the wheelwell than it shows here, it depends a lot on the land beneath ..
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I'm looking on spring turrets on eBay and can't understand the difference between standard height and +2Sort of. It can and does happen when people, for instance, just sling larger springs on or plates to 'lift' their vehicle without any thought for the rest of the system, or just as often, fit very large tyres without any changes to accompany the tyres. My tyres look large but are only 235 x 85 16's .. I do want larger though ...
As it happens, the setup in those pictures has changed. The springs were located on the axle, as most are, and the relocation cones at the chassis end. Since then I've swapped that round, so the springs are stuck to the chassis, which keeps them in the same plane when the axle moves and makes them easier to relocate, but also easier to dislocate. This effectively gives even more travel as the springs could bind on the dislocation cones and stop movement slightly. This doesn't happen now. It's a bitch for jacking up though unless you use limit straps! Mind, at the limit the prop can also give issues with binding on the UJ's. Right now at the limit the prop doesn't bind, but it does touch, so the potential is still there ... so it's a work in progress. Most folk fit wide angle props, but I'll make do with some judicious grinding when ICBA ..
The front is much less of an issue as mostly it just doesn't have to work as hard as the rear. I'd like longer shocks and the bits/mods to make them work, but can't afford them.
The best upgrade I made to forward progress is adding the axle Difflock.
The following pic is my old, basically standard Disco ... The opposite rear wheel is well stuffed up into the wheel well and still touching the ground, but the drivers side, as can be seen, is at full articulation but is not touching anything enough and is free to rotate (See the mud in the tread which wouldn't spin out). Unfortunately, so is the diagonally opposite front ... hence me being beached! Slightly longer articulation might have kept me moving, but a difflock definitely would have! As it happens, I went through the exact same line a few moments later with just a tiny bit more momentum and easily made it.
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You see, this is the thing. It really helps if you do the leg work and gain at least a basic understanding on how and why these things work.I'm looking on spring turrets on eBay and can't understand the difference between standard height and +2