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AT Commander

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I've got an '87 Samurai with humble mods (tires, catback, headers,
cage). It hasn't been driven much in the last 5 years, but now it's
my daily driver in addition to fun adventure vehicle on the weekend.

I've got an idle problem. Either it's racing at 3,000 or stumbling
along at less than 1,000 rpm (or stalling). Anybody got any idea what
might be going on here?
It's a Carb, not Fuel Injected.
I played with idle settings, but the chaotic racing/stalling hasn't
changed.

Gotta get it fixed before the ZookiMelt this summer!

Thanks for any info...
- ATC

P.S. Please post because my email is so full of spam every day that
it's pretty much useless :-(
 
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:47:44 -0800, AT Commander
<atcommander@adventureteam.com> wrote:

>I've got an '87 Samurai with humble mods (tires, catback, headers,
>cage). It hasn't been driven much in the last 5 years, but now it's
>my daily driver in addition to fun adventure vehicle on the weekend.
>
>I've got an idle problem. Either it's racing at 3,000 or stumbling
>along at less than 1,000 rpm (or stalling). Anybody got any idea what
>might be going on here?
>It's a Carb, not Fuel Injected.
>I played with idle settings, but the chaotic racing/stalling hasn't
>changed.
>
>Gotta get it fixed before the ZookiMelt this summer!
>
>Thanks for any info...
>- ATC
>
>P.S. Please post because my email is so full of spam every day that
>it's pretty much useless :-(


I don't know, but if you are running a stock carb and are having carb
problems, ditch it and go with a Weber replacement. I couldn't
believe the change in response and power from that change! (Of course
if you are in CA or some other severe smog inspecting state, this may
not fly. Also, the choke on it sucked and cold (read -20F) weather
caused it to not start without a shot of starting fluid.)

Matt
99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
 
Just remove the solenoid valve from the right side of the carb body. You
will see it easily cause it's the only thing with the wire. Use the
compressor and blow in side while the engine is off, hold the compressor
nozzle for couple of seconds. First while you removing the solenoid valve
make sure that you don't lost the o-ring seal. Also check is it working
properly (Put the solenoid body on - pole on the battery and the wire to +
terminal and see if it opens.
Your first and secondary jets are blocked with the junk that's why doesn't
work. The best thing to do is to disassemble the whole carb and clean it
with the carb cleaner and replace all bad parts.
Never go with WEBER carb cause you will kill your engine, cause it's getting
too much fuel in cylinders and just washing them so they burn out quickly.
And second thing Webers are always flooding on steep angles.



"AT Commander" <atcommander@adventureteam.com> wrote in message
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> I've got an '87 Samurai with humble mods (tires, catback, headers,
> cage). It hasn't been driven much in the last 5 years, but now it's
> my daily driver in addition to fun adventure vehicle on the weekend.
>
> I've got an idle problem. Either it's racing at 3,000 or stumbling
> along at less than 1,000 rpm (or stalling). Anybody got any idea what
> might be going on here?
> It's a Carb, not Fuel Injected.
> I played with idle settings, but the chaotic racing/stalling hasn't
> changed.
>
> Gotta get it fixed before the ZookiMelt this summer!
>
> Thanks for any info...
> - ATC
>
> P.S. Please post because my email is so full of spam every day that
> it's pretty much useless :-(


 
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:48:23 +0100, "Zenteren"
<b.mamuzic@zenteren.com> wrote:

>Never go with WEBER carb cause you will kill your engine, cause it's getting
>too much fuel in cylinders and just washing them so they burn out quickly.
>And second thing Webers are always flooding on steep angles.


Hey, how about some documentation on this?

Thanks!

Matt
99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
 
Thanks for your inputs, guys.
I'm not planning to change out my carb because I like the stock carb.
At 11,000 feet or thereabout, the folks with aftermarket carbs were
having problems. At 14,000 few folks were running well any more. Some
folks had problems on ascents up the steeps, and some folks had
stalling on the way down. My stock carb outperformed 'em all on that
trip - and sold me on keepin' it!
I guess I'll go the carb cleaner route. Will it hurt anything to hose
it down with carb cleaner without removing it, or will the cleaner
have to be wiped off?
Thanks again, Zook Folks!
 
I like B-12 Chemtool. I'll use a whole can and a fresh toothbrush on a carb.
However, that is on a big 4-barrel. I would think you could do your Zuk's
carb on 1/3 of a can. It'll be hard to start at first and run rough for a
few, but it should be fine.

HTH

Carl


"AT Commander" <atcommander@adventureteam.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your inputs, guys.
> I'm not planning to change out my carb because I like the stock carb.
> At 11,000 feet or thereabout, the folks with aftermarket carbs were
> having problems. At 14,000 few folks were running well any more. Some
> folks had problems on ascents up the steeps, and some folks had
> stalling on the way down. My stock carb outperformed 'em all on that
> trip - and sold me on keepin' it!
> I guess I'll go the carb cleaner route. Will it hurt anything to hose
> it down with carb cleaner without removing it, or will the cleaner
> have to be wiped off?
> Thanks again, Zook Folks!


 
Just out of curiosity (and a temporary need to live vicariously through
others), where are you four wheeling at 14,000 ft.?


"AT Commander" <atcommander@adventureteam.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your inputs, guys.
> I'm not planning to change out my carb because I like the stock carb.
> At 11,000 feet or thereabout, the folks with aftermarket carbs were
> having problems. At 14,000 few folks were running well any more. Some
> folks had problems on ascents up the steeps, and some folks had
> stalling on the way down. My stock carb outperformed 'em all on that
> trip - and sold me on keepin' it!
> I guess I'll go the carb cleaner route. Will it hurt anything to hose
> it down with carb cleaner without removing it, or will the cleaner
> have to be wiped off?
> Thanks again, Zook Folks!
>


 
Colorado rockies.
There are a lot of high spots to go, some of 'em over 14K feet.
The last 'teener I did was Mt Bross.
You get funny looks from hikers up there... ;-)



On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:30:53 GMT, "Kerouac" <brinxxnospam@flash.net>
wrote:

>Just out of curiosity (and a temporary need to live vicariously through
>others), where are you four wheeling at 14,000 ft.?

 
"AT Commander" wrote:
> Colorado rockies.
> There are a lot of high spots to go, some of 'em over 14K
> feet.
> The last 'teener I did was Mt Bross.
> You get funny looks from hikers up there... ;-)
>
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:30:53 GMT, "Kerouac"
> <brinxxnospam@flash.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Just out of curiosity (and a temporary need to live
> vicariously through
> >others), where are you four wheeling at 14,000 ft.?

Suzuki Samurai’s are pretty damn cool.. they go anywhere and are Supre
cheap to fix, plus the mods you can do to one is like never ending!!

That just my take anyways

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> I've got an idle problem. Either it's racing at 3,000 or stumbling
> along at less than 1,000 rpm (or stalling). Anybody got any idea what
> might be going on here?
> It's a Carb, not Fuel Injected.
> I played with idle settings, but the chaotic racing/stalling hasn't
> changed.

I had the same problem on my '90 sam. I replaced the stock carb with the
carb from a 1000cc daihatsu charade with manual choke. A lot less vacuum
hoses, started immediately and didn't stall or anything. I got it for 25
euros at my local breakers, fitted perfectly. Be sure to also get the manual
choke cable.

It was a 30 min. fix, a lot quicker than cleaning the stock carb. :)

Thijs, the Netherlands.


 

"AT Commander" <atcommander@adventureteam.com> wrote in message
news:ld174157r96r6stnadtvna23i1j5prtf4q@4ax.com...
> Thanks for your inputs, guys.
> I'm not planning to change out my carb because I like the stock carb.
> At 11,000 feet or thereabout, the folks with aftermarket carbs were
> having problems. At 14,000 few folks were running well any more. Some
> folks had problems on ascents up the steeps, and some folks had
> stalling on the way down. My stock carb outperformed 'em all on that
> trip - and sold me on keepin' it!
> I guess I'll go the carb cleaner route. Will it hurt anything to hose
> it down with carb cleaner without removing it, or will the cleaner
> have to be wiped off?
> Thanks again, Zook Folks!

Have you been over Mosquito pass in the last 2 years? If so what condition?
I lived in Leadville for 13 years and was able to go over it in a 2 wheel
drive pick up. (4 speed). Warren


 
Great suggestion!
Thanks!





On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:21:30 +0200, "Doezel"
<news@nospam.thijs.ohdie.nl> wrote:

>> I've got an idle problem. Either it's racing at 3,000 or stumbling
>> along at less than 1,000 rpm (or stalling). Anybody got any idea what
>> might be going on here?
>> It's a Carb, not Fuel Injected.
>> I played with idle settings, but the chaotic racing/stalling hasn't
>> changed.
>
>I had the same problem on my '90 sam. I replaced the stock carb with the
>carb from a 1000cc daihatsu charade with manual choke. A lot less vacuum
>hoses, started immediately and didn't stall or anything. I got it for 25
>euros at my local breakers, fitted perfectly. Be sure to also get the manual
>choke cable.
>
>It was a 30 min. fix, a lot quicker than cleaning the stock carb. :)
>
>Thijs, the Netherlands.
>

 
Sorry,Warren... I moved to Illinois last year and the only 'wheelin'
here is through cornstalks and mud. :-(


>Have you been over Mosquito pass in the last 2 years? If so what condition?
>I lived in Leadville for 13 years and was able to go over it in a 2 wheel
>drive pick up. (4 speed). Warren
>

 
Here's a dutch page showing the conversion,
http://home.planet.nl/~hup00026/suzukisamurai-4.htm

And here are some pictures of my conversion:
http://webdisk.planet.nl/hup00026/publiek/album/samurai/thijscarb

It's really easy! (and you get the manual choke as a bonus)


"AT Commander" <atcommander@adventureteam.com> schreef in bericht
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> Great suggestion!
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:21:30 +0200, "Doezel"
> <news@nospam.thijs.ohdie.nl> wrote:
>
>>> I've got an idle problem. Either it's racing at 3,000 or stumbling
>>> along at less than 1,000 rpm (or stalling). Anybody got any idea what
>>> might be going on here?
>>> It's a Carb, not Fuel Injected.
>>> I played with idle settings, but the chaotic racing/stalling hasn't
>>> changed.
>>
>>I had the same problem on my '90 sam. I replaced the stock carb with the
>>carb from a 1000cc daihatsu charade with manual choke. A lot less vacuum
>>hoses, started immediately and didn't stall or anything. I got it for 25
>>euros at my local breakers, fitted perfectly. Be sure to also get the
>>manual
>>choke cable.
>>
>>It was a 30 min. fix, a lot quicker than cleaning the stock carb. :)
>>
>>Thijs, the Netherlands.
>>
>


 
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