BIOSBILL

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Cant make any sense of the haynes manual, of how to change the antifreeze in my S3 2.25 Petrol.

Im going to use a 50/50 mix, how much should I put in?
Whats the best way to drain it?
Should I flush it, and how?

Thanks,

biosbill
 
look up coolant capacity in Haynes manual.
drain coolant.
flush system
fill system with antifreeze to half the total capacity
fill system completely with water.
bleed system
run engine
top up with water.
 
OK Thanks,

What is the coolant capacity though?

The haynes manual states that the radiator cap is 10ltrs.
But then says that you should fill the system with 2.27 ltrs of water then the equivilant of antifreeze.

But just under 5ltrs doesnt sound enough for a radiator that big!
 
So capacity 10ltrs, you want a 50/50mix = 5ltr of each, you could do a pre-mix as well,
Then if you make to much you can top up with it :D
 
So the Radiator Capacity is the amount that I need?

Dont want to overfill it or something!

Thanks,

Ill go and start now.
 
Use the best antifreeze you can get, i use either bluecol or comma wurth rad flush is good stick it in and go for a drive for a while then drain it
 
Make sure that you DON'T get your mixture MORE than 50% antifreeze! Anymore than this and most types of antifreezes freezing point begins to rise again, so I'm told. I'm sure the instruction on the can will point this out. I usually mix mine to 33% antifreeze which protects down to -18oC which is good enough where I live an still gives enough protection should I need to top up with plain water.
 
Really? I may be talking balls then! Is it special stuff that they use? I'm talking about the usually blue stuff like comma and the like.
 
does anyone use de-ionised water in their rads?

at my work we were told by the chemists that our regular fresh water supply caused too much deposit build up in the engine coolers so we now use de-ionised water for all the doosil engines, most of them have plate coolers with cooling medium/sea water but there is a couple with rad's and fans. not had any bother with ****e in the systems since!

the worst thing is the fresh water we used for the engines is the same water we all drink/cook/clean in!!! :eek:
 
de-ionised isn't what you want de-mineralised is the stuff or just the stuff you get from tesco for 19p for 2l alot cheaper than de-ionised
 
I just KNOW I'm going to get in bother from Slob for this .. I just know it!
But what the Hell?


The problem with antifreeze is not so much the freezing.

It is because antifreeze (ethylene glycol - the real stuff) is not nearly as good as WATER for carrying HEAT energy. Alcohol (meths, methanol etc) too.
For instance,
to raise the temperature of a litre (or kilogram) or water by one degree C requires you to add 4,200 Joules of heat ebergy to the water. Just think 4,200.

To do the same to a kilo of alcohol needs only 2,500 Joules.

Glycol I can't find the figures for but I think it will be about HALF that of plain water. So .... if the engine heats up a lot, it will heat up about twice as fast on alochol or neat glycol as it will using plain water, AND it will take the coolant twice as long to carry the heat away as it would using plain water.

Plain water has an exceptionally high specific heat capacity. It is in a class of its own, which is very handy for us who use internal combustion engines that are liquid-cooled.

In the arctic, and in piston engine planes that go to high altitudes, they can use neat glycol coolants because it is so cold outside (-40C/F) that the glycol will cool the thing fine, as in arctic vehicles.

You might be surprised that the Specific heat capacity of metals is very low compared to water, weight for weight about one tenth! A kilo of lead needs 140 Joules compared to 4,200 for water, copper is about 380, and steel or cast iron in the same league. It's why air-cooled engines heat up so very quickly, but a liquid cooled one takes so long.

Sorry Slob .....

CharlesY
 
I know of someone who saves the water that collects in his dehumidifier to fill up his radiator as he lives in a hard water area. I suppose it should be similar to distilled water.
 
ffs charlesy .; yer never mentioned that daft forgot to telll him to ensure his heater valve is open
 

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