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joe

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• Jun 22, 2004

• #1

How does this 4 wheel drive work? I've noticed it's an "H" pattern and 2
wheel drive is on the bottom right of the "H". And 4 wheel high is left
lower "H", 4 wheel low being left upper "H". What the heck does right
upper "H" do?? Feels like it is in 4 wheel low drive to me, or is it 2
wheel low????


Joe

 

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Exit

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• Jun 22, 2004

• #2

"joe" <jdzurinda@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bfydnWBwCadHLEXdRVn-uA@bright.net...
> How does this 4 wheel drive work? I've noticed it's an "H" pattern and
2
> wheel drive is on the bottom right of the "H". And 4 wheel high is left
> lower "H", 4 wheel low being left upper "H". What the heck does right
> upper "H" do?? Feels like it is in 4 wheel low drive to me, or is it 2
> wheel low????
>
>
> Joe
>
Discoverys are 4WD only - there is no 2WD option.

Using your 'H' pattern, bottom right is high ratio no central diff-lock,
bottom left is high ratio with central diff-lock, top right is low ratio no
central diff-lock and top left is low ratio with central diff-lock. All of
this should be on a sticker just above the transfer lever - yours must be
missing!

Remember to only drive with the diff-lock engaged on slippy surfaces or the
transmission will wind up.

HTH.

 

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joe

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• Jun 22, 2004

• #3

"Exit" <exit@nomore.com> wrote in message news:Qq2Cc.215$%> Discoverys are
4WD only - there is no 2WD option.
>
> Using your 'H' pattern, bottom right is high ratio no central diff-lock,
> bottom left is high ratio with central diff-lock, top right is low ratio
no
> central diff-lock and top left is low ratio with central diff-lock. All of
> this should be on a sticker just above the transfer lever - yours must be
> missing!
>
> Remember to only drive with the diff-lock engaged on slippy surfaces or
the
> transmission will wind up.
>
I'm sort of confused, what is central diff-lock???? Is this 4 wheel drive
always?

I've had 4 wheel drives before but not like this. All that I've ever had
are either 2 wheel or 4 wheel depending on what position you've chosen.
The sticker is on my Discovery but it doesn't make sense about the
diff-lock.

 

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Paul S. Brown

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• Jun 23, 2004

• #4

joe wrote:

>
> "Exit" <exit@nomore.com> wrote in message news:Qq2Cc.215$%> Discoverys are
> 4WD only - there is no 2WD option.
>>
>> Using your 'H' pattern, bottom right is high ratio no central diff-lock,
>> bottom left is high ratio with central diff-lock, top right is low ratio
> no
>> central diff-lock and top left is low ratio with central diff-lock. All
>> of this should be on a sticker just above the transfer lever - yours must
>> be missing!
>>
>> Remember to only drive with the diff-lock engaged on slippy surfaces or
> the
>> transmission will wind up.
>>
> I'm sort of confused, what is central diff-lock???? Is this 4 wheel
> drive always?
>
> I've had 4 wheel drives before but not like this. All that I've ever had
> are either 2 wheel or 4 wheel depending on what position you've chosen.
> The sticker is on my Discovery but it doesn't make sense about the
> diff-lock.


The Discovery is permanant four wheel drive - all four wheels are always
being driven regardless of what else your're doing.

The centre diff lock is designed to be used if you're in a situation where
one wheel is spinning. On a 4wd without it all the power will go to the one
wheel which has no traction due to the action of the centre differential.
With that locked there's a 50/50 split of power between the front and the
rear and so a single spinning wheel can't stop you dead.

Pushing the range selection lever to the left will engage the difflock in
either high or low range.

P.

 

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joe

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• Jun 23, 2004

• #5

"Paul S. Brown" <usenet060104@geekstuff.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2jrthjF15b2gaU2@uni-berlin.de...
> The Discovery is permanant four wheel drive - all four wheels are always
> being driven regardless of what else your're doing.
>
> The centre diff lock is designed to be used if you're in a situation where
> one wheel is spinning. On a 4wd without it all the power will go to the
one
> wheel which has no traction due to the action of the centre differential.
> With that locked there's a 50/50 split of power between the front and the
> rear and so a single spinning wheel can't stop you dead.
>
> Pushing the range selection lever to the left will engage the difflock in
> either high or low range.
>
> P.

That explains why the vehicle drove in snow so well then. I had a chance
to take it out once when it snowed and couldn't believe how well it handled,
and I never locked the diff. I thought it was in 2 wheel drive, guess not.

If you've got the diff-lock on does it act weird going around a turn?

Joe

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Jun 23, 2004

• #6

On or around Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:48:07 -0400, "joe" <jdzurinda@hotmail.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>That explains why the vehicle drove in snow so well then. I had a chance
>to take it out once when it snowed and couldn't believe how well it handled,
>and I never locked the diff. I thought it was in 2 wheel drive, guess not.
>
>If you've got the diff-lock on does it act weird going around a turn?

you shouldn't use the diff lock in dry conditions, it can wind up the
transmission, causing extra tyre wear or even breaking things.

on slippery surfaces, one wheel will slip a bit.

On series LRs, there's no centre diff, hence the 2WD and 4WD thing - same
rules apply, only use 4WD on slippery surfaces.

--
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"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
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Jeremy Mortimer

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• Jun 23, 2004

• #7

Austin Shackles <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
news:et9id0p246j2mmdh9j325bgt1islsob6qq@4ax.com:

> On or around Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:48:07 -0400, "joe"
> <jdzurinda@hotmail.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>That explains why the vehicle drove in snow so well then. I had a
>>chance to take it out once when it snowed and couldn't believe how
>>well it handled, and I never locked the diff. I thought it was in 2
>>wheel drive, guess not.
>>
>>If you've got the diff-lock on does it act weird going around a turn?
>
> you shouldn't use the diff lock in dry conditions, it can wind up the
> transmission, causing extra tyre wear or even breaking things.
>
> on slippery surfaces, one wheel will slip a bit.
>
> On series LRs, there's no centre diff, hence the 2WD and 4WD thing -
> same rules apply, only use 4WD on slippery surfaces.
>

It does act weird going around a turn with the diff lock on - it feels like
rather a lot of understeer, at any rate on a slippery surface. On a non-
slippery surface the tyres scrub and bounce.

Jeremy

 

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joe

Guest

• Jun 23, 2004

• #8

"Jeremy Mortimer" <mortimer@ifrc.remove_this.org> wrote in message
news:Xns95115B4A0BFD0mortimerifrcorg@140.99.99.130...
> Austin Shackles <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
> news:et9id0p246j2mmdh9j325bgt1islsob6qq@4ax.com:
>
> It does act weird going around a turn with the diff lock on - it feels
like
> rather a lot of understeer, at any rate on a slippery surface. On a non-
> slippery surface the tyres scrub and bounce.
>
> Jeremy

OK, now I understand a lot more. So for paved roads that aren't slippery I
need the right side of the "H" pattern. For off road and slippery
conditions the left side of the "H".

Joe

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Jun 23, 2004

• #9

On or around Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:47:38 -0400, "joe" <jdzurinda@hotmail.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Jeremy Mortimer" <mortimer@ifrc.remove_this.org> wrote in message
>news:Xns95115B4A0BFD0mortimerifrcorg@140.99.99.130...
>> Austin Shackles <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:et9id0p246j2mmdh9j325bgt1islsob6qq@4ax.com:
>>
>> It does act weird going around a turn with the diff lock on - it feels
>like
>> rather a lot of understeer, at any rate on a slippery surface. On a non-
>> slippery surface the tyres scrub and bounce.
>>
>> Jeremy
>
>OK, now I understand a lot more. So for paved roads that aren't slippery I
>need the right side of the "H" pattern. For off road and slippery
>conditions the left side of the "H".

's about it. Using low range and 1st gear is great for ****ing off ordinary
cars in traffic jams, too - on a manual box in particular, you can pootle
along at idle at about 1.5 mph, which ordinary (manual) cars can't do
without stopping and starting.

On one occasion with my old SII, I put it going like this, opened the door,
got out and walked alongside it...


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"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25

 

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David French

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• Jun 23, 2004

• #10

"Austin Shackles" <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3mpjd0phomd8got0082dvp6tbift2u4hnf@4ax.com...
> 's about it. Using low range and 1st gear is great for ****ing off
ordinary
> cars in traffic jams, too - on a manual box in particular, you can pootle
> along at idle at about 1.5 mph, which ordinary (manual) cars can't do
> without stopping and starting.

You do that too?

> On one occasion with my old SII, I put it going like this, opened the
door,
> got out and walked alongside it...

I've seen various episodes of putting a LR in low reverse, getting out and
running round it before getting back in. Mainly in car parks though, rather
than on main roads.

 

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Exit

Guest

• Jun 23, 2004

• #11

"David French" <david.not.spam.french@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:40d9ed4c$0$4590$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> "Austin Shackles" <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3mpjd0phomd8got0082dvp6tbift2u4hnf@4ax.com...
> > 's about it. Using low range and 1st gear is great for ****ing off
> ordinary
> > cars in traffic jams, too - on a manual box in particular, you can
pootle
> > along at idle at about 1.5 mph, which ordinary (manual) cars can't do
> > without stopping and starting.
>
> You do that too?
>
> > On one occasion with my old SII, I put it going like this, opened the
> door,
> > got out and walked alongside it...
>
> I've seen various episodes of putting a LR in low reverse, getting out and
> running round it before getting back in. Mainly in car parks though,
rather
> than on main roads.
>
>
I used to do it quite often in my 90 when laning - jump out, run and open
gate, watch LR pootle through gate, close gate and jump back in. Only a good
idea where there are constant ruts to steer the motor though!

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jun 24, 2004

• #12

On or around Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:51:24 +0100, "David French"
<david.not.spam.french@virgin.net> enlightened us thusly:

>"Austin Shackles" <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:3mpjd0phomd8got0082dvp6tbift2u4hnf@4ax.com...
>> 's about it. Using low range and 1st gear is great for ****ing off
>ordinary
>> cars in traffic jams, too - on a manual box in particular, you can pootle
>> along at idle at about 1.5 mph, which ordinary (manual) cars can't do
>> without stopping and starting.
>
>You do that too?
>
>> On one occasion with my old SII, I put it going like this, opened the
>door,
>> got out and walked alongside it...
>
>I've seen various episodes of putting a LR in low reverse, getting out and
>running round it before getting back in. Mainly in car parks though, rather
>than on main roads.

however, note that an auto can go faster than you expect in low reverse at
idle.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Appearances: You don't really need make-up. Celebrate your authentic
face by frightening people in the street.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

 

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EMB

Guest

• Jun 24, 2004

• #13

In news:lutkd0pr81kn9tuuk9u2k9uamav93fr5fi@4ax.com,
Austin Shackles <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> expelled:
>
> however, note that an auto can go faster than you expect in low
> reverse at idle.

Voice of experience Austin? How far did you have to run?


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EMB
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Austin Shackles

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• Jun 25, 2004

• #14

On or around Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:52:56 +1200, "EMB" <embtwo@ihug.co.nz>
enlightened us thusly:

>In news:lutkd0pr81kn9tuuk9u2k9uamav93fr5fi@4ax.com,
>Austin Shackles <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> expelled:
>>
>> however, note that an auto can go faster than you expect in low
>> reverse at idle.
>
>Voice of experience Austin? How far did you have to run?

I never actually did it with the autobox, having observed that it was going
rather faster than I'd expected. higher gearing, for one thing. On an
upslope it'd go slowly.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to
a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
from Mein Kampf, Ch 10