richard039

New Member
Hi
Im looking to buy a V8 110 and convert it into a 4.2 (LSE). Has anyone carried out this transplant and be able to give me any advice?
Thanks Richard
 
Because I can! I've owned a 3.9 rangie and drivern a 4.2 & I think the 4.2 would transfer well into a 110. I have thought of larger engines but have made a bit of a compromise and it is a Land Rover option.
 
I take it you mean an engine swap from the 3.5 to a 4.2?

you can stroke a 3.5 to 4.3 which would be cheaper than getting a 4.2
 
Did the 4.2 conversion about 13 years ago straight drop in and the ecu is easy too I also upgraded to the r380 manual and d1 transfere box very quick and easy cruiser!
Down side as the 4.2 started the whole pours issue not the most reliable engine to put in in an unknown condition
 
Thanks Everyone for your advice. POAH I hadnt even thought about tuning the 3.5 rather than changing it. Back to the drawing board, I think!
In your experience what are the best enhancements and are there any to stay away from, when tuning the V8?
Thanks Richard
 
Thanks Everyone for your advice. POAH I hadnt even thought about tuning the 3.5 rather than changing it. Back to the drawing board, I think!
In your experience what are the best enhancements and are there any to stay away from, when tuning the V8?
Thanks Richard

Hi :)

Presume you are asking about swapping the 4.2 motor in, rather than trying to make a LSE Rangie out of a 110??

The RV8 is an ok engine. Heads limit valve size and ultimately top end power. So you can actually get a 3.5 to make similar PEAK hp to a 4.0 or 4.2 That said the bigger displacement will make ore torque and make more torque across the entire rpm range, so while PEAK figures will be similar a 4.2 will be making more hp all the while no matter what rpms.

Such a swap should be pretty easy, although it's worth thinking how you want to do it. Do you want to convert to EFI or stick with carbs? Something like a Weber 500 carb will offer good performance and arguably easier than EFI for a home builder. The stock EFI setup works ok but is a bit limited, so it might be worth researching alternative setups like Megasquirt and Megaspark.

What transmission are you planning on? Personally I want manual, more fun, faster and better on fuel. A std 110 V8 should have an LT-85, one of Landy's stoutest boxes, but highly tractor like to use and usually noisy.

I'd personally keep an eye out for an LT-77 or an R380. They are essentially the same box, so I don't personally have a bias on either. You will need a different bellhousing though.

As for tuning...... huge topic. It depends what you want, as in what will you use the vehicle for?

Tuning takes two routes really:

1. Freeing up lost hp through restrictions. So better exhaust, intake, state of fuelling etc. Most call these bolt on's. Good gains can be had but not huge numbers.

2. Making more HP. For this you need to know how HP is calculated:

HP = torque x rpm / 5252

This means making the same torque at higher rpms will mean more HP. Or make more torque at the same rpms and more HP.

Sadly how much torque is made is often largely dictated by displacement. Tuning mods will increase this, but not by drastic amounts.

However making more torque higher in the rpms is a lot easier. If you've ever seen a dyno plot curve, what we would aim to do is move the curve to the right of the graph.

This means the usable powerband shifts up the rpm range, more mid and top end power and less bottom end.

What you need to do is find a balance between how much bottom end grunt and top end power you want.


The low CR 3.5 found in Defenders is pretty much junk for n/a tuning. You can spend a fortune and you'll still see low HP. If you want you could crack it open and replace the pistons with higher CR ones. But this is costly.

A 4.2 would be great or a 4.6 but they carry a premium to buy. A 3.9 EFI isn't a bad bet though. With a decent exhaust (and long tube manifolds), cam and some heads you should be able to see around 240hp from one.

Check out V8 Developments website. Real Steel also do some ok cams too. RPI has lots of info, but pricey as a rule.
 
Some of the points above are interesting the strongest box land rover made was the lt95 4 speed manual box not the lt85 as that is a alloy split case box and is actually the worst as it was made by snatana

On transmissions the r380 is limited to 380 nm torque and was never offered as a option on the 4.6 only the 4.0 engine but I have a customer d2 with my converted to 340 bhp 4.6 Exocet spec engine so the box is in uncharted territory being well over 100 bhp over the safe max limited as specced by land rover.

On the case of engine tuning here's what I have found over the years
The 3.5 though being the most robust of land rover v8's is also the hardest to get big gains over power after the 200 bhp due to cylinder bore shrouding.

The 3.9 in injection form is a big jump in power over the 3.5 and good power can be extract with little work my own classic is a 3.9 with 250 bhp at the flywheel and give 22+ mpg and is a auto!

One to bear in mind is cost of parts and as there are plenty of people out there who will offer plenty of gizmos which will do little to improve over the standard parts which land rover fit
Eg:- standard ignition parts are very good
standard bearing and rings are also very good
standard valve train hydraulic followers and rocker arms are best
standard 14 cux injection is simple and will work fine in most applications
The golden rule is just chipping is a folly do the mechanical bhp first then move to the electrical if you want a little extra
 
there are 2 lt85s 22c santana split case and, lr h/d 20c solid case with oil pump feed,both are strong boxes and where used in 4.5 snatch vehicle, but like lt95 has multipul selector shafts so has tractor feel gear shift
 
Just make sure piston are in good nick, trully scary how expensive they are (£90 EACH!!!!!!)

I go with vouges point - the amount you will spend on buying a 4.2 would be better spending on tuning a 3.9....
 

Similar threads