thanks guys, it was just an option. my engine,9.35 cr has started knocking when up to temp (bottom end) and have a low comp motor i was going to use while i rebuilt the other. i've managed to get a lot of the items required for the rebuild together, cam, followers, adjustable steel timing gear, most of the gaskets and seals etc. would it be foolish to not pull the heads off while i'm at it and re ring it, bearing in mind it doesn't use any oil or water. also, where would be the best source for the main and big end bearings please? may go 14 cux route as have been offered a 3.9 serp lump with suspected hgf and all necessaries, opinions?