d0nni

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Hi,

We (dad and I) decided it would be a bit of a laugh to get a old defender to tinker and work at and also use for our hunting expeditions and something rough and ready for days out places for a laugh.

We decided to drop the hammer on a 1986 110 Ex Mod 2.5na. She has solid chassis, engine goes really well. We will be first road users of her and the MOD 654 Form states 23k on the clock.

Anyway. My question is this. I took it for a spin and as much fun as it was with no power steering - to allow all of us to drive it (dad is 65) we wish to try to install power steering into it as the first real job we do to it.

I can find plans for 1987 110 but cannot seen to find anything for the 1986 - are they the same engine etc to work of as a basis to go by?

What all would we need to get the power steering into it?

I see there is the PAS pump to install under the alternator (which one?)
an additional pully will be required to be fitted
PAS steering rack
Reservoir

If there was a land rover being broken down - would there be an engine which would be an excellent donor for this? A friend says he has a disco 1 which the power steering system should be a direct install?

would anyone know the exact part models we would require to do this upgrade? Would the disco 1 install onto this engine? (think the disco hes referring to is a 2.5td but not 100% sure)

Be a great help for a first time land rover owner!
 
Did this to mine a few years ago.

The disco engine will be a 200tdi

Most of the bits off the disco will work it is just the tensioning bit that i seem to remember being a problem you may need to make a bracket or adapt one also you may have to go to motor factors with a string template to get the correct sized belt.
 
Did this to mine a few years ago.

The disco engine will be a 200tdi

Most of the bits off the disco will work it is just the tensioning bit that i seem to remember being a problem you may need to make a bracket or adapt one also you may have to go to motor factors with a string template to get the correct sized belt.


cheers for that. by make a bracket / adapt one - what type of thing are you referring too?
 
If what you are looking to use it for is just local/short range hunting expeditions then the 2.5na will be fine, more so at that low miles and they can have power steering fitted. have a look at Glencoyne engineering site, lots of info about what can be done with older models.
After market Power assist kit's also available.
 
My 1989, 110 has factory fitted power steering. It has a 19J engine which is the same as yours but turbocharged.
You would need.....
Oil reservoir.
All of the pipes.
Pump and bracket.
Crank pulley with extra vee belt groove.
Steering box.
I guess that the 200td Disc would be a source of parts if you can't find a donor Defender.

Points to note.....
You may have to remove the radiator to gain access. The pipes run on the cross member beneath it.

Your crank pulley will be very tight, you will need a puller to get it off. The bolt holding it on is torqued to around 200 ft/pounds, 3/4" drive socket needed.

I dont find non power steering too heavy.....are you sure that there isn't anything binding or seized.
/ wheel alignment tracking wrong.
 
My 1989, 110 has factory fitted power steering. It has a 19J engine which is the same as yours but turbocharged.
You would need.....
Oil reservoir.
All of the pipes.
Pump and bracket.
Crank pulley with extra vee belt groove.
Steering box.
I guess that the 200td Disc would be a source of parts if you can't find a donor Defender.

Points to note.....
You may have to remove the radiator to gain access. The pipes run on the cross member beneath it.

Your crank pulley will be very tight, you will need a puller to get it off. The bolt holding it on is torqued to around 200 ft/pounds, 3/4" drive socket needed.

I dont find non power steering too heavy.....are you sure that there isn't anything binding or seized.
/ wheel alignment tracking wrong.

I didnt find it heavy or anything like that. its more to allow all of us to use if. If my parents wanted to go for a spin somewhere for a day it would pull the arms outta my da (65)

Cheers for the advice re the pulley. It is really going to be the main thing we sort first of all. 2nd will then be the seating arrangements.

Temporary solution is going to be a few in the back and the fronts replaced. - Long term we thinking on converting to a CSW - however if we do we are going to take from another rather than start cutting and welding at our body parts. so if we choose we can put original back on - or if someone wants original they can put it back if/when we sell.
 
I didnt find it heavy or anything like that. its more to allow all of us to use if. If my parents wanted to go for a spin somewhere for a day it would pull the arms outta my da (65)

Cheers for the advice re the pulley. It is really going to be the main thing we sort first of all. 2nd will then be the seating arrangements.

Temporary solution is going to be a few in the back and the fronts replaced. - Long term we thinking on converting to a CSW - however if we do we are going to take from another rather than start cutting and welding at our body parts. so if we choose we can put original back on - or if someone wants original they can put it back if/when we sell.

Seating will without a lot of work will be side facing bench...dont forget to tell insurance...converting to a CSW is a huge job and not easy either as there are diffrent outriggers to think about as well as different side panels due to extra door posts...also you cant cut and weld your body panels unless youve got aluminium experience and professional equipment...do the seats andpower steering then sell on if you want a station wagon...
 
Seating will without a lot of work will be side facing bench...dont forget to tell insurance...converting to a CSW is a huge job and not easy either as there are diffrent outriggers to think about as well as different side panels due to extra door posts...also you cant cut and weld your body panels unless youve got aluminium experience and professional equipment...do the seats and power steering then sell on if you want a station wagon...

Yeah what we have opted for for this wagon now is just two forward facing seats in the rear. We are going to put steel spread plates in underneath and just put some windows into the side of it. Will clean it up and also make it a nice easy fix to get us going.

Power steering wise we are just going to keep it as having none. Decided that its just an extra thing to fail on it and to be honest we both have drove it now and both agree its manageable.

You are probably right with the station wagon situ. That is probably what we will do. The whole idea was to have a rough and ready shooting wagon for the lads to jump in and wreck about in so instead of trying to make it more than what it is that's just what we are going to do.
 

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