Freelander 2001 TD4 OBDII Socket or Not??

tsam19 · Mar 24, 2011

Firstly whilst researching the whereabouts of the OBDII socket port for my TD4, I came across this in the passengers foot well - see pics

Can anyone conform this is the OBDII socket, where to plug in a diagnostic scanner or similar?

Secondly if that is the Freelander OBDII socket, are pins in the socket configured to accept a cable such as an OBDII extension cable - see pic

Are all cars OBDII ports pinned in the same generic configuration?

Or is there a 'Special' Freelander/Range Rover OBDII extension cable for sale anywhere?

Lastly I want to know if anyone has a Hawkeye for sale, or if there's a discount for one for being a forum member?

I did contact someone on here about such a discount, but never heard back.

Thanks

ratty · Mar 24, 2011

tsam19 said:
Firstly whilst researching the whereabouts of the OBDII socket port for my TD4, I came across this in the passengers foot well - see pics

Can anyone conform this is the OBDII socket, where to plug in a diagnostic scanner or similar?

Secondly if that is the Freelander OBDII socket, are pins in the socket configured to accept a cable such as an OBDII extension cable - see pic

Are all cars OBDII ports pinned in the same generic configuration?

Or is there a 'Special' Freelander/Range Rover OBDII extension cable for sale anywhere?

Lastly I want to know if anyone has a Hawkeye for sale, or if there's a discount for one for being a forum member?

I did contact someone on here about such a discount, but never heard back.

Thanks

That is indeed the OBDII socket. The socket will except an extension cable but it's the device that you plug it into that is most likely to cause the problem. What are you intending to plug it into?

tsam19 · Mar 24, 2011

That's good, cheers.

As from my previous experience in using car diagnostics, its best to buy something that's known to work from the start and something that has a good reputation from other users.

As for the device for this Freelander TD4 it's going to have to be the 'Hawkeye' as that's the best for this vehicle I've read reviews on.

Any other diagnostic kit configuration, that other people have put together and connected to their vehicle, from reading their testimonies on this site and various other sites - they can never seem to get it to work - which is a waste of time, buying something that isn't going to work.

For example - I read it was possible to use a VAG-COM cable and the VAG software to read,diagnose on the Freelander??

If you can advise of a decent diagnostic kit, I'd be glad to hear of it.

From my experience on the BMW diagnostics, Easy Dis v44/sss progman for example lets the user, read,clear faults, diagnose faults and encodes parts if need be.

That's the sort of level I want for the Freelander.

But up to now its Hawkeye at the top of the list at a reasonable price for a handheld device.

Thanks

Mantamad · Mar 24, 2011

I don't know if a 2001 TD4 will be OBDII compliant, petrol cars from 2001 had to be but it was later for diesel (2004 iirc) plug it in and see if it is

tsam19 · Mar 24, 2011

What else could the '16 pin socket port' in the passengers foot well be?

I got this info from Gendan

ELM327 OBDII / EOBD Car Scan Tool diagnostics interface (USB) - For 2001+ petrol, 2004+ diesel cars

The EOBD / OBDII 16-pin diagnostic connector (DLC) :: Gendan Automotive Products

So if the port in my TD4 isn't OBD II what is it ??

Is it EOBD??

On that note I'm not buying any diagnostic tool or parting with any hard earned until I get a definite answer to:

1) Is a 2001 TD4 freelander OBDII
2) What diagnostic tools are other Freelander TD4 owners using to plug into that port

I've just read another thread about a 'Nanocom' system, anyone know if there any good and whats the price?

Also do you have to 'buy unlock codes' for each Range Rover model too?

Nanocom - LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f50/hawkeye-diagnostics-tools-green-adaptor-120020.html

:: Nanocom ::

Or is Nanocom just for Discovery and Defenders?

The Mad Hat Man · Mar 24, 2011

the socket is a genderic OBD connector, but Landrovers do not use OBDII codes. Some of the basic codes are, and a generic code reader will read some, but not all the fault codes. To read Landrover fault codes properly, you need the kit designed for Landrovers.

tsam19 · Mar 24, 2011

So what diagnostic kits are available to the Land Rover?

The Mad Hat Man · Mar 24, 2011

T4 or Hawkeye?

tsam19 · Mar 24, 2011

Hawkeye £300

T4 Hand Held £???

I presume they both have the same capabilities, although it looks like you don't have to buy unlock codes for the T4 hand held.

The Mad Hat Man · Mar 24, 2011

T4 -
Approx. RRP £4,750 When New

Mcgyver · Mar 24, 2011

I too have 2001 TD4,
I've 2no. generic scanners, just off the top of my head here is the results I get:

Air intake temperature
RPM
Map
coolant temperature
Throttle position
Vehicle speed sensor

No it won't give you fuel rail pressure or mass air flow(not for 2001 td4 anyway).

Generic readers that I'm using are Elm 327 and autel ms509

tsam19 · Mar 24, 2011

T4 too pricey, probably as its for commercial use??

As for the Elm 327 and Autel MS509, do they give the same results ass mentioned?

Air intake temperature
RPM
Map
coolant temperature
Throttle position
Vehicle speed sensor

Or do they have different capabilities?

The Elm 327 that works off Windows Laptop platform doesn't it?

The Autel is a hand held one?

So can anyone add as to what the 'hawkeye' can do that these two mentioned cannot?

Thanks for the replies, I'm getting the picture now as to whats available.

Hippo · Mar 24, 2011

Hawkeye can do loads more. Talk with main computer, auto computer, air bag computer, security computer, auto gearbox computer... tis the best available, except for T4 which is betterer as it does everyfing.

Hawkeye owner.

tsam19 · Mar 25, 2011

Don't you have to buy different cables for the
Hawkeye?
As I read another forum member saying he had to
Buy another cable to be able to access a particular
Module on his vehicle.
I've included a link to the post earlier on.

tsam19 · Mar 25, 2011

Inquired at Gendan Automotive Products :: Professional and DIY car diagnostic tools :: EOBD, OBD II, CAN and VAG Code Readers and Scan Tools

Got an email back, which read:

"I'm afraid that the ELM interfaces won't help with the Land Rover models
before 2004/6 (depending on weight), so they unfortunately won't be able to
communicate with your car. These dates are when the OBDII/EOBD requirements
were enforced on car manufacturers for diesel models. Before these dates,
Land Rover were using their own diagnostic protocols/configurations"

To communicate with the car, you'll need a tool that offers specific
coverage of the Freelander. The tool we stock that will help is the HawkEye
for Land Rover:
HawkEye Handheld Land Rover Diagnostic Tool

The full coverage list of the unit can be found here (the coverage table is
towards the end of this leaflet):
http://www.bearmach.com/downloads/Diagnostic/Hawkeye_v3and4_GB.pdf

So whether this is just a marketing ploy to get me to buy a 'Hawkeye' ??

Mcgyver · Mar 25, 2011

Elm is windows based, and Autel is handheld, both give the same results as above (Generic), only advantage of the Elm is that it will graph the different results against each other, where as the Autel will only give individual graphs.
Honestly, they're really not that much use on a 2001 TD4.

tsam19 · Mar 25, 2011

Cheers I won't bother wasting my time or money buying any of the two items mentioned or any other potential kit that may work.

If anyone has a used 'hawkeye' for a freelander 1, they want to sell, I'd be interested.

Thanks

Hippo · Mar 26, 2011

tsam19 said:
Don't you have to buy different cables for the
Hawkeye?
As I read another forum member saying he had to
Buy another cable to be able to access a particular
Module on his vehicle.
I've included a link to the post earlier on.

There's 3x different abs units, and 2x different security units, across different model years of FL1. One of each needs the BA5077 connector. The book on it downloaded off the web, from bearmach, tells you which ones. I got the cable anyway. The unit comes with the normal BA5071 cable as standard for most other stuff. There's an update cable which int worth buying, until an update is available. Some forums have one for member use.

The LR obdii connection is different to other cars. My elm327 scan tool can read my 2001 v6. You may find a ture proper real (non slitty cheap copy) elm327 can scan your td4, but I can't say for sure. Been told many times that it can't scan mine, but if you keep telling it to retry, it uses different languages/protocols. Talks on the 5th attemp usually. Regardless of that, the elm327 is limited to how far the manufacture has been helpful. If they've put in the bear minimum, then you'll be reading codes and very little engine stuff. Thats the case wiff most cars, regardless of age. Lots included odbii stuff prior to when it was needed, but again it's very limited.

Having used both the elm327 and the hawkeye, I would choose the hawkeye, regardless of price, the fact its hand held only (which I prefers), and no graphs. Video of the hawkeye to come, when I's get the time.

Jim_C · Feb 5, 2013

Hi All
I recently purchased a Hawkeye coded for a Freelander TD 4.
Might sound like a stupid question, but does any one know if the unit can be used for non-Landrover vehicles to read basic OBD codes, specifically on a 2001 MB A160?

biggeeeee · Feb 5, 2013

Jim_C said:
Hi All
I recently purchased a Hawkeye coded for a Freelander TD 4.
Might sound like a stupid question, but does any one know if the unit can be used for non-Landrover vehicles to read basic OBD codes, specifically on a 2001 MB A160?

The first line of your post gives it away

Coded for Freelander TD4
The Hawkeye is specific to land rover

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