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Nikki Cluley

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When did the lights change on the back of the Discovery?
--
Nikki

1990 Discovery V8i
1985 Range Rover V8
1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol

 
in article BDE08E86.130D1%[email protected], Nikki Cluley at
[email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 11:46 am:

> When did the lights change on the back of the Discovery?

Also what are the differences between the ES and the XS models?

Just missed a 1999 V8 ES Disco with LPG for £6,500. Had quite high mileage,
but full service history. He's just said that if he could find another one,
preferrably green, with low mileage in East Midlands, he'd go up to £10,000.
Would look at a diesel as long as was TD5. Had a look on auto trader and
e-bay, but thought I'd mention it on here in case any of you knew of any.
--
Nikki

1990 Discovery V8i
1985 Range Rover V8
1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol

 

"Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BDE090CD.130D3%[email protected]...
> in article BDE08E86.130D1%[email protected], Nikki Cluley at
> [email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 11:46 am:
>
>> When did the lights change on the back of the Discovery?
>
> Also what are the differences between the ES and the XS models?
>
> Just missed a 1999 V8 ES Disco with LPG for £6,500. Had quite high
> mileage,
> but full service history. He's just said that if he could find another
> one,
> preferrably green, with low mileage in East Midlands, he'd go up to
> £10,000.
> Would look at a diesel as long as was TD5. Had a look on auto trader and
> e-bay, but thought I'd mention it on here in case any of you knew of any.
> --
> Nikki
>
> 1990 Discovery V8i
> 1985 Range Rover V8
> 1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
> 1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol
>

ES has more toys and ussually all leather and electric seats, air con,
cruiese, electric sun roofs etc. As to the lights change, which change are
you on about, the one fron 200 to 300, 300 with indicators in to without or
back to within or up to series 2?

Peter.


 
do you mean the "new" style upper clusters on the TD5 style? (late 1999 I
think) if you mean the indicators in the upper clusters as well as the
bumper 1995 onwards.

ES = fully loaded, full leather air con ESR X2 I think there was an ES
premium which has walnut trim and electric seats and the Harmon kardon sound
system.

XS = "partially loaded"! half leather different alloys and protection on the
bottoms of the doors (plastic thingy I think!)

Was the ES you saw advertised nationally? I missed that one. I'm after a V8
ES myself to replace my 94 300Tdi.

I might live to regret it as it's never let me down and runs like a Swiss
watch! - I just want a V8.

Steve



"Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BDE08E86.130D1%[email protected]...
> When did the lights change on the back of the Discovery?
> --
> Nikki
>
> 1990 Discovery V8i
> 1985 Range Rover V8
> 1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
> 1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol
>


 
On or around Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:12:45 -0000, "Peter Seddon"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:BDE090CD.130D3%[email protected]...
>> in article BDE08E86.130D1%[email protected], Nikki Cluley at
>> [email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 11:46 am:
>>
>>> When did the lights change on the back of the Discovery?
>>
>> Also what are the differences between the ES and the XS models?
>>
>
>ES has more toys and ussually all leather and electric seats, air con,
>cruiese, electric sun roofs etc. As to the lights change, which change are
>you on about, the one fron 200 to 300, 300 with indicators in to without or
>back to within or up to series 2?

the last one is easy: 1999.

As to the others... AFAIK: all 200-type have one set of lights with
everything in it.

Paddocks have the following:

PRC 6475/6476 : Rear Lamp Assembly RH/LH - to LA081991 (except Japan)

this is up to 94MY

PRC 6475/6476 : Rear Lamp Assembly RH/LH - to MA162389 and MA501704 (UK
only)

which is 95MY - I don't know why 2 series of numbers, though. Our 300TDi is
MA14nnnn and has the all-in lights, in addition to the bumper ones.

AMR 5151/5150 : Rear Lamp Assembly RH/LH - from MA162390 and MA501705 to
WA746541 (UK only)

95MY - 98MY, in other words, I think, the end of disco 1 production

AMR 1295/1294 : Rear Lamp Assembly RH/LH - from WA746542 (UK only)

I suspect that this is the beginning of disco 2


They also have bumper lamps:

AMR6510/6509 : Rear Bumper Lamp Assembly RH/LH - from MA081992

Dunno why there's a gap in the numbering on the main lights. I suspect this
means that from MA162389/MA501704 they have the cluster without the
indicators. This tallies with observation on the road, and with our 300TDi,
which is before that sequence and has the indicators.

 
So Peter Seddon was, like

> As to the lights change, which
> change are you on about, the one fron 200 to 300, 300 with indicators
> in to without or back to within or up to series 2?

Que? :)

--

Rich

Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous


 
Dunno aboout the disco, but the rear lights on my alhambra changed when I
reversed into a wall....... :-(
"Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BDE08E86.130D1%[email protected]...
> When did the lights change on the back of the Discovery?
> --
> Nikki
>
> 1990 Discovery V8i
> 1985 Range Rover V8
> 1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
> 1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol
>


 
in article [email protected], Peter Seddon at
[email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 1:12 pm:

>
> "Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:BDE090CD.130D3%[email protected]...
>> in article BDE08E86.130D1%[email protected], Nikki Cluley at
>> [email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 11:46 am:
>>
>>> When did the lights change on the back of the Discovery?
>>
>> Also what are the differences between the ES and the XS models?
>>
>> Just missed a 1999 V8 ES Disco with LPG for £6,500. Had quite high
>> mileage,
>> but full service history. He's just said that if he could find another
>> one,
>> preferrably green, with low mileage in East Midlands, he'd go up to
>> £10,000.
>> Would look at a diesel as long as was TD5. Had a look on auto trader and
>> e-bay, but thought I'd mention it on here in case any of you knew of any.
>> --
>> Nikki
>>
>> 1990 Discovery V8i
>> 1985 Range Rover V8
>> 1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
>> 1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol
>>
>
> ES has more toys and ussually all leather and electric seats, air con,
> cruiese, electric sun roofs etc. As to the lights change, which change are
> you on about, the one fron 200 to 300, 300 with indicators in to without or
> back to within or up to series 2?
>
> Peter.
>
>
When the rear lights moved from being near the rear bumper to half way up
the back of the car.
--
Nikki

1990 Discovery V8i
1985 Range Rover V8
1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol

 
in article [email protected], Martin Lewis at [email protected]
wrote on 11/12/04 7:06 pm:

> "Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:BDE090CD.130D3%[email protected]...
>> in article BDE08E86.130D1%[email protected], Nikki Cluley at
>> [email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 11:46 am:
>>
>>
>> Also what are the differences between the ES and the XS models?
>>
>
> Hi Nikki
>
> I posted this: http://snipurl.com/baie for David French earlier in the
> year - might help with the confusion. Then again, might not :eek:)
>
> Martin

Thanks. Just the sort of thing w were looking for.
--
Nikki

1990 Discovery V8i
1985 Range Rover V8
1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol

 
in article [email protected], StaffBull at
[email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 2:52 pm:

> do you mean the "new" style upper clusters on the TD5 style? (late 1999 I
> think)
These are the ones.
>
> ES = fully loaded, full leather air con ESR X2 I think there was an ES
> premium which has walnut trim and electric seats and the Harmon kardon sound
> system.
>
> XS = "partially loaded"! half leather different alloys and protection on the
> bottoms of the doors (plastic thingy I think!)
>
> Was the ES you saw advertised nationally? I missed that one. I'm after a V8
> ES myself to replace my 94 300Tdi.

In the Leicester Mercury. First ad was on the Thursday, didn't have the
paper delivered for some reason, and saw it in the Friday car section.
Deposit had been left 20 minutes earlier. Had LPG conversion on it and had
done about 95,000 miles. New Disco was being collected on the Monday
morning and they just wanted it out of the way.
>
> I might live to regret it as it's never let me down and runs like a Swiss
> watch! - I just want a V8.

Well we're looking at V8's with LPG or a TD5. Would prefer a dark green
colour and Bruce has expressed a preferance for leather seats.

I do think, though that we should really sell the RR and the Series 3 first!
>
> Steve

--
Nikki

1990 Discovery V8i
1985 Range Rover V8
1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol

 
well you have a hell of a collection there- just add another :)
"Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BDE14BE2.1312C%[email protected]...
> in article [email protected], StaffBull at
> [email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 2:52 pm:
>
>> do you mean the "new" style upper clusters on the TD5 style? (late 1999 I
>> think)
> These are the ones.
>>
>> ES = fully loaded, full leather air con ESR X2 I think there was an ES
>> premium which has walnut trim and electric seats and the Harmon kardon
>> sound
>> system.
>>
>> XS = "partially loaded"! half leather different alloys and protection on
>> the
>> bottoms of the doors (plastic thingy I think!)
>>
>> Was the ES you saw advertised nationally? I missed that one. I'm after a
>> V8
>> ES myself to replace my 94 300Tdi.
>
> In the Leicester Mercury. First ad was on the Thursday, didn't have the
> paper delivered for some reason, and saw it in the Friday car section.
> Deposit had been left 20 minutes earlier. Had LPG conversion on it and
> had
> done about 95,000 miles. New Disco was being collected on the Monday
> morning and they just wanted it out of the way.
>>
>> I might live to regret it as it's never let me down and runs like a Swiss
>> watch! - I just want a V8.
>
> Well we're looking at V8's with LPG or a TD5. Would prefer a dark green
> colour and Bruce has expressed a preferance for leather seats.
>
> I do think, though that we should really sell the RR and the Series 3
> first!
>>
>> Steve
>
> --
> Nikki
>
> 1990 Discovery V8i
> 1985 Range Rover V8
> 1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
> 1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol
>


 

"Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BDE14521.13127%[email protected]...
> in article [email protected], Peter Seddon at
> [email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 1:12 pm:
>
>>
>> "Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:BDE090CD.130D3%[email protected]...
>>> in article BDE08E86.130D1%[email protected], Nikki Cluley at
>>> [email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 11:46 am:
>>>
>>>> When did the lights change on the back of the Discovery?
>>>
>>> Also what are the differences between the ES and the XS models?
>>>
>>> Just missed a 1999 V8 ES Disco with LPG for £6,500. Had quite high
>>> mileage,
>>> but full service history. He's just said that if he could find another
>>> one,
>>> preferrably green, with low mileage in East Midlands, he'd go up to
>>> £10,000.
>>> Would look at a diesel as long as was TD5. Had a look on auto trader
>>> and
>>> e-bay, but thought I'd mention it on here in case any of you knew of
>>> any.
>>> --
>>> Nikki
>>>
>>> 1990 Discovery V8i
>>> 1985 Range Rover V8
>>> 1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
>>> 1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol
>>>
>>
>> ES has more toys and ussually all leather and electric seats, air con,
>> cruiese, electric sun roofs etc. As to the lights change, which change
>> are
>> you on about, the one fron 200 to 300, 300 with indicators in to without
>> or
>> back to within or up to series 2?
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>
> When the rear lights moved from being near the rear bumper to half way up
> the back of the car.
> --
> Nikki
>
> 1990 Discovery V8i
> 1985 Range Rover V8
> 1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
> 1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol
>
Thts when the series two came out, 200s and 300s were llin the same place,
in the bottom half of the back pillar. It was sometime during 1999.

Peter.


 
On or around Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:57:13 -0000, "Peter Seddon"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>>
>Thts when the series two came out, 200s and 300s were llin the same place,
>in the bottom half of the back pillar. It was sometime during 1999.
>

not quite. Some of the 300-types didn't have all the lights in the pillars,
though I understand they can be converted by retro-fitting the other type of
light units or by blagging same from a maestro van.
 
yes u r right. my M94 has only got brake lights in the pillars
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:57:13 -0000, "Peter Seddon"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>>
>>Thts when the series two came out, 200s and 300s were llin the same place,
>>in the bottom half of the back pillar. It was sometime during 1999.
>>
>
> not quite. Some of the 300-types didn't have all the lights in the
> pillars,
> though I understand they can be converted by retro-fitting the other type
> of
> light units or by blagging same from a maestro van.


 
On or around Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:58:13 -0000, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>yes u r right. my M94 has only got brake lights in the pillars

wierd, innit. our M95 has the full set.


 
In message <[email protected]> Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> On or around Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:12:45 -0000, "Peter Seddon" > <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly: > > > > >"Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >news:BDE090CD.130D3%[email protected]... > >> in article BDE08E86.130D1%[email protected], Nikki Cluley at > >> [email protected] wrote on 11/12/04 11:46 am: > >> > >>> When did the lights change on the back of the Discovery? > >> > >> Also what are the differences between the ES and the XS models? > >> > > > >ES has more toys and ussually all leather and electric seats, air con, > >cruiese, electric sun roofs etc. As to the lights change, which change are > >you on about, the one fron 200 to 300, 300 with indicators in to without or > >back to within or up to series 2? > > the last one is easy: 1999. > > As to the others... AFAIK: all 200-type have one set of lights with > everything in it. >

Ture.

> Paddocks have the following: > > PRC 6475/6476 : Rear Lamp Assembly RH/LH - to LA081991 (except Japan) > > this is up to 94MY

i.e. end of 200Tdi

> > PRC 6475/6476 : Rear Lamp Assembly RH/LH - to MA162389 and MA501704 (UK > only) > > which is 95MY - I don't know why 2 series of numbers, though. Our 300TDi is > MA14nnnn and has the all-in lights, in addition to the bumper ones. >

They've missed out AMR1295/4 MA081992 (start of 300Tdi) to MA135907 and
PRC6475 should be from MA135908 to MA152389, then we go to AMR5151/0
which are from MA152390 to WA746541 and finaly AMR1295/4 which go
from WA746542 to end of procuction (commercials have slightly different
VIN number ranges).

> AMR 5151/5150 : Rear Lamp Assembly RH/LH - from MA162390 and MA501705 to > WA746541 (UK only) > > 95MY - 98MY, in other words, I think, the end of disco 1 production > > AMR 1295/1294 : Rear Lamp Assembly RH/LH - from WA746542 (UK only) > > I suspect that this is the beginning of disco 2 > > > They also have bumper lamps: > > AMR6510/6509 : Rear Bumper Lamp Assembly RH/LH - from MA081992 > > Dunno why there's a gap in the numbering on the main lights. I suspect this > means that from MA162389/MA501704 they have the cluster without the > indicators. This tallies with observation on the road, and with our 300TDi, > which is before that sequence and has the indicators. >

There should be no gaps in the numbering ideally, except where a part
number supercession has occured. These sometimes occur where a supplier
has changed or some similar minor reason, so the later (or sometimes
earlier part no.) is used. In the case of the rear lights above, the
muddle of parts just after the 300Tdi launch is due to the requirement
for bumper lights leading to complaints that the tail lights were out,
so for a time both the bumper and main rear lights had tail lights on at
the same time.

Richard

-- www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected] Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!! Helping keep Land Rovers on and off the road to annoy the Lib Dems
 
On or around Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:24:30 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>There should be no gaps in the numbering ideally, except where a part
>number supercession has occured. These sometimes occur where a supplier
>has changed or some similar minor reason, so the later (or sometimes
>earlier part no.) is used. In the case of the rear lights above, the
>muddle of parts just after the 300Tdi launch is due to the requirement
>for bumper lights leading to complaints that the tail lights were out,
>so for a time both the bumper and main rear lights had tail lights on at
>the same time.

personally, I prefer 'em that way. I gather that the bumper-mounted lights
were introduced on account of the spare wheel blocks the view of the
off-side rear lamp cluster when the door's open.


 
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