Webasto/Eberspacher 110 TD5 fuel pump stand pipe

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ratty

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Has anyone got any pics of the way their diesel heater has been plumbed into their landy. The way I see it is that I have 4 options.

Option 1)

is to use the nipple on the top of the fuel pump and try and use a grommet or else sleeve the protruding bit and then pass the 4mm flexi pipe down through the grommet or sleeve.

Option 2)

is to drill a hole in the top of the flat area on top of the fuel pump and bolt a universal stand pipe through the hole.

Webasto Diesel Heater, Fuel Standpipe.500mm x 5mm | eBay

Option 3)

Is to get a filler neck pick up/stand pipe like this one....

Land Rover Defender TD5, Auxillary Heater Fuel Standpipe Eberspacher or Webasto | eBay

Option 4)

Is to use a separate tank



I'm torn between the additional tank and either fitting a stand pipe or grommet type affair to the vehicles original fuel tank. I've already pretty much discounted the fuel filler neck stand pipe option.

I'd quite like to use the original nipple bit that's built into the fuel pump. Has anyone got any pics of their fuel plumbing I can use for inspiration.

Cheers all.:)
 
arboorman said:
Is this any help? About halfway down the page there's a pic of the top of the fuel pump - I've not read the whole thread but there might be something there..?

Defender2 - View topic - webasto fuel tap anyone ?
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Cheers for that. I think it's swaying me to adding a standard stand pipe instead of using the built in nipple..... It'd be nice to see a pic of the original fuel pump nipple being used though.
 
I've wanted to fit a webasto for ages to my 110 Td5 but have been put off by the idea of having to access the fuel pump!

I've not seen the filler neck/stand pipe option before. Looks like a cleaver idea to me - is there anything that puts you off this option?

Are you looking at fitting a cab heater or one to pre-heat the engine?
 
A lot of people are put off by the thought of removing the fuel tank. Many have resorted to cutting holes in a perfectly good floor just to get access. I removed my fuel tank a couple of weeks ago and it was a fairly painless process. Only a few bolts to undo (Tank strap, Tank guard) and a few jubilee clips. The tank then dropped free and with a little wiggle was out. Then there were the fuel pump electrical connectors and hoses and that was it. Much easier than I though it would be considering peoples previous comments...
Don't be afraid to remove the tank- its simple...
 
arboorman said:
I've wanted to fit a webasto for ages to my 110 Td5 but have been put off by the idea of having to access the fuel pump!

I've not seen the filler neck/stand pipe option before. Looks like a cleaver idea to me - is there anything that puts you off this option?

Are you looking at fitting a cab heater or one to pre-heat the engine?
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I've already fitted the webasto airtop 2000 air blown heater under one of the rear seats. I have the same heater in my works truck so knew what to expect. I intend to fit an under arch long range tank to my landy hence ruling out the filler neck pipe. At the moment I've got it running off a 5 litre diesel can located under the other rear seat. I'm just waiting for some fuel proof grommets to arrive.

Shifty1962 said:
Why not fit a separate small lawn mower tank somewhere under the bonnet?
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or the second row seats

Mike_B said:
A lot of people are put off by the thought of removing the fuel tank. Many have resorted to cutting holes in a perfectly good floor just to get access. I removed my fuel tank a couple of weeks ago and it was a fairly painless process. Only a few bolts to undo (Tank strap, Tank guard) and a few jubilee clips. The tank then dropped free and with a little wiggle was out. Then there were the fuel pump electrical connectors and hoses and that was it. Much easier than I though it would be considering peoples previous comments...
Don't be afraid to remove the tank- its simple...
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http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f67/fitting-td5-110-inspection-hatch-fuel-pump-181754.html ;):D:D:D
 
So are you looking to tap into your fuel tank rather than run it off the 5L can?

I do forestry work for a living so the idea of having a way to heat the cab up during the day for lunch break etc is very appealing during the winter!!

Aside from the fuel issue, was it fairly straight forward to install?
 
arboorman said:
So are you looking to tap into your fuel tank rather than run it off the 5L can?

I do forestry work for a living so the idea of having a way to heat the cab up during the day for lunch break etc is very appealing during the winter!!

Aside from the fuel issue, was it fairly straight forward to install?
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I'm torn between the can and the tank. By modifying the lid of a standard fuel can it means that I can use the lid fitted to any fuel can. Due to the inspection panel in my floor it means accessing the in tank pump is easy too. I have the old fuel pump at home to mess about with so I know exactly what to do if/when it comes to fitting a pipe to mine. The airtop 2000 on low uses 0.12L per hour and on high uses 0.24L an hour so running off a 5L can shouldn't be an issue.

It is just 2 wires to get it up and running if you are using the basic switch that I am using. You can use a 7 day timer if you want but my use of the landy is different to that of my works truck so I decided it wasn't worth it.

The webasto is a much more reliable unit than the eberspacher hence being my choice. I'm on my phone at the moment but I test rigged it up in my garden with a car battery and a can of fuel and video'd it so I'll post it up for you tomorrow if you like? In essence all you need to do to fit it is drill 2 larger holes for the exhaust and air intake, 1 smaller hole for the fuel feed and 4 small holes to bolt it down.

The fuel pump has a 2 pin fitting that a wire coming from the main unit plugs onto and then you just need to give the main unit a live and earth
 
Hi Ratty

Cheers for all the info on this, I'd be interested to hear what you decide to do.

Apart from the electrical part (not my strong point!!) it seems relatively straight forward to install. I've started looking on ebay for a good second hand one so hopefully something will come up soon.

On balance I think I'm going down the separate tank route and then run it on Red diesel - seems daft not to as well buy it in 200l drums

When its running do you know if it draws much power? I've got a split charge set up and have ply lined the back so my girlfriend and I could sleep in the back it for some reason we couldn't pitch a tent when away camping - It'll be interesting if we'd be able to keep the webasto ticking over through the night or if that would kill the battery?
 
arboorman said:
Hi Ratty

Cheers for all the info on this, I'd be interested to hear what you decide to do.

Apart from the electrical part (not my strong point!!) it seems relatively straight forward to install. I've started looking on ebay for a good second hand one so hopefully something will come up soon.

On balance I think I'm going down the separate tank route and then run it on Red diesel - seems daft not to as well buy it in 200l drums

When its running do you know if it draws much power? I've got a split charge set up and have ply lined the back so my girlfriend and I could sleep in the back it for some reason we couldn't pitch a tent when away camping - It'll be interesting if we'd be able to keep the webasto ticking over through the night or if that would kill the battery?
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It will use 14w-29w depending on how high you have it set.

I'm planning to use mine to heat my caranex tent when camping.

I have the 24v version in my truck and can easily leave it running all night with no issues. After the first 5 mins where it's getting up to tempit drops down to a much lower level.

I carry a spare battery for camping and am thinking about using bullet connectors so I can switch between it being hard wired into the landy and running off the back-up battery using the croc clips in the video link I put up.

I've ordered a stand pipe from ebay and have decided that I might as well tap into the landys tank as I have an inspection hatch ready fitted to make plumbing in easier.

Here's a link to let you know the different types of controllers and what the outputs are of the various webasto models.

http://www.webasto.com/fileadmin/webasto_files/documents/international/rv/data-sheet/rv-air-top.pdf

I have the basic controller for my landy and my works truck has the 7 day timer.

If you end up going for an eberspacher make sure it's 2005 onwards to avoid ecu problems. If you google both eberspacher and webasto most people are of the opinion that the webasto being the more basic unit is the more reliable one to go for.
 
ratty said:
I don't know to be honest. For the tiny amount of fuel they use, I would rather play it safe and use diesel than bugger it up mucking about with alternative fuels.
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That makes sense.

My 110 is my first drafty non-aircon car for nearly 10 years. Along with heated front screen, the pre-heater seems like a worthwhile option for getting visibility on cold mornings.
 
I have a webasto fitted in my 200tdi and its a top bit of kit. Instant heat of a morning to dry out your carpets. Mine is plumbed straight into the tank via a standpipe and I don't think it uses much fuel at all. I wouldn't consider fitting an extra tank so you can use red diesel to be worth bothering with for the amount in question. Mine is 24v with a step down unit wired in. I got my heater second-hand but its been the best thing I have ever bought for my landy.
 
steveyorks said:
I have a webasto fitted in my 200tdi and its a top bit of kit. Instant heat of a morning to dry out your carpets. Mine is plumbed straight into the tank via a standpipe and I don't think it uses much fuel at all. I wouldn't consider fitting an extra tank so you can use red diesel to be worth bothering with for the amount in question. Mine is 24v with a step down unit wired in. I got my heater second-hand but its been the best thing I have ever bought for my landy.
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I ended up chopping the top off the diesel heater fitment on the top of the td5 fuel pump. I then slid a stand pipe down it (I was going to put the 4mm plastic fuel pipe down it instead but it was too tight a fit) and sleeved the 2 with a bit of rubber hose over. I had to dip one end of the rubber hose in boiling water to allow it to stretch enough to get over the plastic fitment on the tank. If I used a bigger inside bore hose it would have been too slack on the fuel stand pipe.
 
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