Evolution Chip.. Experiences?

EeEk said:

Though I doubt they'd go as far as strip an ecu, read the chip and compare it against a stadard map and I'd also deny all knowledge...

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EeEk said:

No problem with my insurance...its trade for any vehicle

Though I doubt they'd go as far as strip an ecu, read the chip and compare it against a stadard map and I'd also deny all knowledge...



(posted by a hacker trying to frame EeEk)

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EeEk said:

An internal chip is not that obvious...its 2 layers deep inside the ecu....and looks just like the chip you swap it with. A remap is even less obvious as its on the original chip.

Ok external chips will be easy spotted but unless your dead, (you wont be too bothered if you are) youd be stupid not to take it off before an insurance assessor showed up....along with all the other bits and the bald tyres

Anyway back to all the wirry bits exploding...

My p38 is manual So looks like it wont self destruct up as soon as I take the chip out the packet

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wammers said:

It must be over the limit for the standard 4.0 litre also then. Standard 190 BHP and 320 Nm. Don't know how a power box negates torque reduction to be honest. The torque reduction is a function of the gearbox ECU and the ECM, the gearbox ECU will not allow the change until conformation of torque reduction has been received from the ECM. All the power box does is increase fuel % requested by the ECM at any given throttle demand. Therefore the power box is just following the ECM and adding a % of fuel. The torque reduction will be a slight reduction in fuel so the power box should follow whatever the ECM does. There would still be more fuel for that particular throttle setting but it still should reduce in a linear fashion. Unless you are saying the power box has a specific function to block torque reduction. Which i doubt. I Still think most of the problems are people fitting power boxes to cars with badly maintained boxes.

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Datatek said:

A 20% drop in torque from standard is not the same as a 20% drop from the substantially increased torque available from a power box or remap, in fact the drop with a power box brings the torque down to the normal full torque of the standard set up thus effectively negating the benefit.
If maintenance was the problem, it would also affect the 4.0.

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wammers said:

But the 4.0 litre runs at the enhanced powerbox torque level of the diesel as standard with 25 to 30 more BHP. Over a wider rev range. So will be applying the same loads, if not more standard as the chipped diesel does. Without knackering boxes out of hand. There has to be another reason if diesels shred boxes. Maybe a combination of poor maintenance and the differing ECU mapping who knows? It's a debate you can have forever without coming to a conclusion. Only thing i know is that if you fit a turbo to an old knackered engine it won't last long. And there are plenty of chipped diesels, mine for one, that have no gearbox problems.

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